Jupiter-80 Hate
31 May 2012, 19:03Ok. So I've been watching Gearslutz following the JP-80 and JP-50 threads.
I just don't get the virulent hate being spewed forth.
I read the threads this evening for a while. Most seem to flow around the idea that the 80 sounds "thin" or not "rich" or only good with layers or effects. I felt myself getting more and more pissed off so I said, "Ok jerk wads, let's find out." I went to the studio to have a go at it.
I don't have a JP-8, so I turned on the nearest best thing I have, the OB-Xa. I set it up for a straight sawtooth waveform with no envelope modulation and only one oscillator (no detuning). I then went to the Jupiter, turned off all the effects, analog feel, etc. Nothing but straight sawtooth. One partial, -24 dB filter, LPF2, a hair of resonance. With a bit of added eq, I nailed the sound. Lows and highs.
Ok, great. So then I went all 8 oscillators on the Oberheim, patch A-1 (the ballsy, pseudo-Jump patch). Now back to the JP-80.
I was able to nail it to within 99.5%. Admittedly it took me about 20 minutes of tweaking the filters and playing with detuning, but the sound was totally there. All balls were there, and in some ways, it was heavier sounding. This was only 2 partials. I didn't want to embarrass the OB-Xa and turn on all 3 partials. Two partials, one tone, one layer.
Anyway, I just don't see where this all hate is coming from. Either they're auditioning the synth in 3 minutes at Sam Ash with a pair of crappy headphones and Version 1, or they can only afford a MicroKorg and have gear-envy, or are only 17 years with no reference point but their peers. Pretty much tired of defending the synth. Thin? Please.
Sorry, just on a rant I guess. There are a number of things I would like Roland to do to make the synth mo' betta, but geez people, it's a smoking machine. Maybe the OS is too "easy," and doesn't demand respect or something.
I guess my perusing GS days have come to an end. Too many morons, and a waste of time.
I just don't get the virulent hate being spewed forth.
I read the threads this evening for a while. Most seem to flow around the idea that the 80 sounds "thin" or not "rich" or only good with layers or effects. I felt myself getting more and more pissed off so I said, "Ok jerk wads, let's find out." I went to the studio to have a go at it.
I don't have a JP-8, so I turned on the nearest best thing I have, the OB-Xa. I set it up for a straight sawtooth waveform with no envelope modulation and only one oscillator (no detuning). I then went to the Jupiter, turned off all the effects, analog feel, etc. Nothing but straight sawtooth. One partial, -24 dB filter, LPF2, a hair of resonance. With a bit of added eq, I nailed the sound. Lows and highs.
Ok, great. So then I went all 8 oscillators on the Oberheim, patch A-1 (the ballsy, pseudo-Jump patch). Now back to the JP-80.
I was able to nail it to within 99.5%. Admittedly it took me about 20 minutes of tweaking the filters and playing with detuning, but the sound was totally there. All balls were there, and in some ways, it was heavier sounding. This was only 2 partials. I didn't want to embarrass the OB-Xa and turn on all 3 partials. Two partials, one tone, one layer.
Anyway, I just don't see where this all hate is coming from. Either they're auditioning the synth in 3 minutes at Sam Ash with a pair of crappy headphones and Version 1, or they can only afford a MicroKorg and have gear-envy, or are only 17 years with no reference point but their peers. Pretty much tired of defending the synth. Thin? Please.
Sorry, just on a rant I guess. There are a number of things I would like Roland to do to make the synth mo' betta, but geez people, it's a smoking machine. Maybe the OS is too "easy," and doesn't demand respect or something.
I guess my perusing GS days have come to an end. Too many morons, and a waste of time.
Last edited by scottrod on 1 Jun 2012, 05:56, edited 5 times in total.