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ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

3 Jul 2009, 17:19
Yes, unfortunately the same here !! This hasn't been tested correctly.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 04:01
Has any one had the problem installing the update where the new functions etc only appear if you do a factory reset, this happened in my case couldn't work out why the additional rythms funtcions etc didn't appear until i did a factory reset.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 04:49
You migt want to read Page 2, chapter 5 of the readme first pdf (incl in the OS1.3 docs)...

... Still, although I appreciate the effort? of this new OS,

1) RPS does lack a "stop" function. And as we are limitted to 16 phrases (or ?) , a STOP would be required to stop all ongoing RPS groups.

2) Time signature issue is not solved

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 05:48
jabberwocky, the Sequencer's STOP key will stop all RPSs (and arpeggios also).
Daniel Roma
Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Roland SH-201
Alesis QS 6.1
M-Audio Axiom 49

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 05:57
the stop button now works on song, RPS and RHYTHM PTN. like a master stop.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 08:10
True, but during live performance it's nice to have this stop on the keys, to be able to play with both hands on the keyboards still... ,
thx
Jabber

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 08:20
Surely there could be a stop key. It wouldn't be hard to implement, just another parameter in the RPS page.

But the Stop button isn't that far away from the keys, at least on the G6.

Also, there could be assignment of different RPS patterns on the keys than those on the Pads, or at least we could be given the option to not being obliged to assign each and everyone of the 16 RPS patterns on the keys. We could for instance assign all 16 patterns to the 16 pads, but only 2 or 3 of them being assigned on the keys. I think that we can't do that now. That would be true flexibility.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 09:16
you can assign the unwanted RPS to notes that are out of the keybed...
Daniel Roma
Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Roland SH-201
Alesis QS 6.1
M-Audio Axiom 49

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 10:23
Yeah, currently this is the only way to do this.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 15:15
Fist of all, hi everyone. It's a pleasure to be here finally (I've been around for a while but never registered until now). I am a Fantom G8 owner for 5 months and a few days. Cyclops, I read about your problem today and I wanted to make an experiment because I hardly could believe it that Roland would make a "boomer" upgrade -)). So here's the deal. The microscope IS working for odd time signatures in phrases too, or at least for me it did. Here's the procedure.
1) Select an INIT SONG from the list and load it.
2) Insert a number of blank measures (using SONG UTILITY) for "TRACK ALL" or for a certain track that you want.
3) Press SONG EDIT and then INSERT and select an INIT PHRASE from the phrase list.
4) After you loaded the INIT PHRASE in the song, press EDIT PHRASE
5) In the Edit Phrase display, press Phrase Beat and specify the time signature of the phrase. Then hit REC in the phrase edit display and record the phrase (don't record in the song display)
6) Eventually save the phrase, then go to microscope mode. It should work, or at least that's how it worked for me. BUT BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS: since you didn't record anything in the song display, the tempo message that stands in the beginning of the song will still be the default 120.0 so when you will leave the Phrase Edit screen you will see the tempo changing to 120. To stop that from hapenning, go to "Song Utility", select Tempo Track. You will go to the microscope mode wich will display the tempo message from the beginning of the song (and this message cannot be deleted). Use the right arrow near the scroll wheel to select 120 and modify this message to the tempo that you wish. And there you go. I placed my message here to. If it's still my first time, then I should go wild -)) Hope I won't get caught by the Secret Roland Agent ;))

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

4 Jul 2009, 16:41
G-Man: I don't know what time signature worked with this method you are proposing, but I tried a lot of different time signatures and this doesn't work at all. No matter what, Microscope always shows 4/4. Maybe you've got version 1.40 or something?... :-\

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

5 Jul 2009, 01:12
-)) No, my version is still 1.30. Or maybe you want to call it 1.03?-)) I used one Init Phrase and set the Phrase Beat to 7/4 and simultaneously another one with 3/8. And the M-scope screen was right, both the small blue screen showing the notes in the phrase and the counting was right. Sorry if it doesn't work, it's very strange.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

5 Jul 2009, 01:38
Hi,

Nah, still no good !!

G-man, I tried you're steps with a measure of 9/8.
Then record 'in phrase mode' just one measurement.

Go to microscope edit and you'll see :
1) only 4 beats in measure 1 (I would expect 9 beats ??)
2) The last note is put in measurement 2 ??

Also, we should be able to record these things in Song mode.

BUt we can expect some Video's soon, maybe some interesting news regarding this measurement issue of Rolands top of the line workstation. Wahahaha

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

5 Jul 2009, 02:42


Phrases aren't automatically re-mapped to previous 1.20 time signatures. You will need to do this yourself with the new Phrase Beat parameter. Then you will need to re-save the phrases with the new time signature. Cheers.

DK


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