ANNOUNCEMENT: VERSION 1.30

I'm sure that the use of bold and underlined text will make some people see what is really wrong with that feature.

Yep totally with you on this one cyclops, it was Microscope mode itself where this problem hits you the most, it was the first encounter I had with the whole 4/4 problem. The fact that this was a supposed major part of this patch release, and to have Microscope mode still screwed up, it friggin sucks.

Dan, doing a new video isn't necessary... we know the way the sequencer currently works with odd time sigs -- and where it doesn't work. The only video we need is how to open up Microscope mode and see our actual time signatures, and not 4/4... unless there's some magic formula we've all missed that you could show us I don't think there's any video to help us here

PS. 9/8 is nuthin, in my band we have an instrumental section that goes ||: 6/8 7/8 8/8 | into a keyboard solo that alternates between 7/8 and 9/8

- Rick

all this talk about bugs has made my mind think of the G when ever someone says bug im just expecting what ever they say to be about the G

So, when we record a song with multiple time signatures, does the FG Seq create separate phrases for each time signature???

For instance, I record a song with 4 measures in 4/4, 4 measures in 5/4 and 4 measures in 3/4. If I keep recording for the full 12 measures, will the FG create 3 phrases, one for each separate time signature?
If yes, that's good, it helps keep things handy. Otherwise, we should be doing some editing in the phrases, since the FG doesn't support multiple time signatures inside a single phrase.

Has anyone tested this one?

I think you can do it the way you want. Iif you want to create new phrases when changing time signatures or not it's your choice. I didn't test that but I don't think the FG will create by itself the new phrases. Even since the XP series there was the posibility to change time signature during a song by recording such a message in the beat track. Now with the FG there are songs and phrases but only the song posesses the ability to change time signature at some point. I didn't test that however. If you insert a beat change message somewhere in the song but when recording the phrase you start from a few measures before the beat change, than... hmm.... I don't know but I don't think so. Phrases should be newly created only when hiting the REC button, recording and assigning the new phrase, it's unlikely to create two ore more phrases hiting the rec and stop button only once.

Yeah, I know. We can always stop recording and restart every time we want a different phrases with separate time signature in the same track. This way we can treat (edit, quantize etc) each phrase the way we want.

I just hoped this could be done automatically by the Fantom-G.

Yes that's true as well cyclops, that was the first thing I tested when 1.30 came out. Here's what I wrote in the other thread:

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... this is still not going to be a workable solution. Let's say the chorus for my song follows this pattern:

4/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 | 3/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 | 7/4

Naturally I want to just hit record and play the whole chorus, which is going to result in a single phrase. If I want to have the flexibility to edit the midi data in microscope after the fact I need to either:

- Set the time signature for the phrase to be 34/4 (oh, guess what, Phrase Beat only goes up to 32/4)
- Record each bar of the chorus separately (!), and then go in and set each phrase's beat

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So really, even if they were to fix the whole Microscope thing, recording in odd time sigs on the Fantom is still such a ridiculous experience it's currently not even worth the trouble to try, IMO.

Of course we can record the whole part, have it in one phrase and use the duplicate and delete commands to make as many duplicates as the discrete time signatures, then cut the resulting phrases to our liking. I prefer the first way though, i.e. to record in small sections and stop each time there is a time signature change. I think this is easier to organize things better.

Since upgrading to 1.30, I have noticed that my USB mouse is 100% stable. It used to freeze up on occasion and need to be yanked out/plugged back in.

No change in my mouse's behaviour since having updated. I've been using a plain Microsoft optical wheel mouse and it has been extremely stable till now.

Indeed billw!

I have always had this mouse problem, and I didn't notice it was solved on OS 1.3 until you pointed that out!
That's nice! =)