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Fantom-G open patch archive

Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 14:23
MadaHorn,

Nice Tubas & Trombone. :)

Thanks for sharing!

SpyBar

Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 15:03
Thanks guys!

Wierd...the stock patch programming was so bad on the Bari Sax and Tuba, it was almost as if Roland was trying to hide them from us....I could not imagine why. Thankfully the waves are not that bad.
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Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 15:55
Same with MANY patches in the Stock set. I'm glad you added a very instructive example! Bad on-the-fly factory patch programming is one of the reasons why many G patches don't sound half as good as they could, even with some older wav material.

Still I think many wavs also should be replaced themselves by better ones (nearly all of the clavinet wavs for example are lousy bad and you can't really save them by better patch programming) or completely other choices (like throwing out some of the too many bad quality piano-wavs and replacing them by better other instrument choices from SRX boards etc.).

I guess many of the synth wavs, especially those from analog synths, could also be reprogrammed to receive clearly better patches in many cases. The only problem is, that well done reprogramming eats up too much MUSIC user time, which is already urgently needed anyway for arranging, rehearsing and sequencing plus some sampling, after buying a workstation like the G which should show a better overall out-of the-box sound set, instead of forcing you to invest too much time...

I like especially your trombone patch a lot: you did a nice reprogramming job, Adam! If you really manage to treat trumpet and sax wavs in a comparable way, maybe we would even suddenly get some patches for playable brass live sets.

What were the main changes to be done, besides reoccuring bad reverb or pfx programming? For example: In the analog synth region I meanwhile stumbeld on many patches with too harsh Cutoff settings, too high Sustain curves, imprecise Decays: all in all leading to too harsh electronic plastic sound, instead of mirroring the deep, vivid and often warm character of the originals.

Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 16:05
EQ, TVA, TVF, Rev...all kinds of things to get the patch to sound natural compared to the preset....

Fun, in way, since the result is good and I learn somethings along the way...

I would tell you more specifics if I were in front of my synth.
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Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 17:25
Please do tell more, I think many here would appreciate the ideas and learn.
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Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 17:27
OK...maybe then we will get more patches in the archive....
Really, though, I am not an expert, but I sure like to experiment and MAKE things work.

I will share the little that I learned later when I am looking at the Fantom G edit screens...
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Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

28 Jan 2009, 18:09
Youtube videos perhaps? :D

No, really I don't think I'm even off topic. It would be great if every patch would have a video with the creator demoing the patch, how it was made etc, controllers etc. But that's just wishful thinking and the patch mp3s are already great!
Jesse J / The Fantom G Facebook group - Please join!

AC French Horns

29 Jan 2009, 00:21
http://fantomg.navarin.de/index.php
French Horns had to be next...

This is fuller sounding than the presets, although I give some credit to GM Fr Horn 2 for some pretty nice settings to start with..for one, the Rev with delay is pretty nice.

I added a little EQ and changed one of the waves of the GM patch...sometimes, it is simple like that.
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Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

29 Jan 2009, 13:43
you are awesome ;) sharing that amount of patches. thx. when i get the next update working on ie6 the awaited multisample support will come. i also will provide a faq section which is currently... empty. if anybody here likes to write an explanation or a howto for anything, feel free ;)
thx for the support

Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

29 Jan 2009, 15:58
MadaHorn: that thing with the GM patches, I've noticed this long time ago. Many of the GM patches are much better programmed than the "normal" preset patches. I don't know why they did that, but many of my sounds were created by editing the already existent GM patches.

Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

29 Jan 2009, 16:03
Exactly...I had noticed that about the Organs, for example...
Some pretty good Leslie progamming compared to the other presets...

Will the wierdness never end...Again, I think Roland may have rushed this out...Do you think they would ever offer Reworked Presets for the entire G? Probably impossible and impracticle unless they made new banks of Better Programs...

But that's what we're here for, right? hahaha....
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Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

29 Jan 2009, 17:22
I don't know if the presets lie in a ROM chip or in a EPROM module or something like that. If the case with the Fantom-G is the former, then we're stuck with all of the lousy presets. If the latter is happening, then we can hope in an update on the ROM patches, providing that Roland will decide to do something like this.

Re: Fantom-G open patch archive

29 Jan 2009, 17:44
I had similar impressions. Isn't that somewhat crazy?

Better programming in not so few GM patches, which have a very small sample base and don't sound overwhelming for that reason, while the G's custom presets are often programmed weaker, but offer a in part much better wav base.

Weird and extremely uneven G soundset really yelling for a quality update!

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