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Why scrap SRX?

Re: Why scrap SRX?

13 Jun 2008, 17:52
That's exactly what I was asking.. Cheers m8..
Are these things in your opinion upgradable by the OS, apart from SRX obviously?
Whine whine everywhere and not a drop to drink ;)

Re: Why scrap SRX?

13 Jun 2008, 22:25
C'mon guys.

Roland has been good to most of us for years. You buy a keyboard, workstation, whatever to do what you want to do, and if the G fits - go for it. If not, don't. It's only money and for most, a workstation repays itself in so many ways.

You can be sure Roland is listening and most of these complaints will be fixed through OS upgrades. Give them a chance... and give them your money to help! :)

SRX with an XR rack or SonicCell with a G makes sense for me. No need for too many keyboards. Rack those old sounds you need and drive from G/PC/whatever. No need for nostalgic keyboard collections guys. I miss my JP8 dearly but wouldn't buy another for playing.

Roland needs money to keep going, invest in new products, and deliver G updates. If they put the G out to market a little earlier than some of us like, maybe learnt a few things from Micro$oft and others. So give them the money and trust 'em to fix what most are shouting for. Will be an even greater workstation when they do.

Just my positive two Hong Kong cents. Reality may suck. So just buy your G and enjoy. ;)

Richard
X-man moving with the times and going G asap.

PS. I got no need for that Piano Button. Waste of real estate. Nuff other buttons to push. :)

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 09:04
Funny how some of the most under rated features of the X now appear to be good over the G. I can't understand you :-/

To make a small point just because this has been mentioned before:
1) You CAN have an acessible Input knob on the front panel.
2) There's no RPS on keys, yes, BUT you still have them on PADS
3) SMF can't be EXPORTED, yes, BUT it can be IMPORTED.

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 10:42
3)
SMF can't be EXPORTED, yes, BUT it can be IMPORTED.
Yes, you can import SMF but only if you have access to a computer... ;) It would also be nice to be able to load SMF directly into the Fantom G from a USB Memory stick. :) My $800 (520 EUR+VAT) Sonic Cell can do this but my $3,250 (2,115 EUR+VAT) Fantom G7 cannot?? :(

There are situations where finding access to a computer is limited or impossible. In those situations it would sure be nice to be able to stick a thumb drive, etc., directly into the Fantom G's USB port and the G be able to read and load the contents into the G's internal memory - without a computer. :) Now if there is already a way to do this without using a computer then I have totally missed the part in the Manual that states you can - that is, IF you actually can. ;) But from what I've read and even experimented with trying to find a way, there simply is NO way - unless of course you use a computer. :( Roland PLEASE!!! Have mercy on us peons!! :)

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 11:06
I'm not sure what you mean you have to have access to a computer? You can load in SMF files that are placed on a USB stick just fine without a computer.
Whine whine everywhere and not a drop to drink ;)

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 11:11
I can't understand you :-/

Its very simple really...
I never under rated the current functions of the fantom X
I always wanted them to be better.

Its like this..
80% of something is still 80%
On the G 80% of nothing is nothing.

I never said any function on the X was worthless, it had functionality and gave some flexibility.
however taking it away completely is not an advancement its a step backward.



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Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 11:46
Quinnx
I wasn't adressing my comment directly at you. Anyway, if you want to be 100% true on what you said you'd have to say it like I did in the 3 points above.
And what the hell "80% of nothing in the G" means????
does 80% of nothing in the X equals something???

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 12:01
keysme
To import an SMF
Quoting the manual, pag. 282
Place the files in the following folder : FantomG.Prj/SEQ/SMF folder

FantomG.Prj is the name of the project folder in the Fantom-G’s internal memory. Multiple projects can be saved in USB memory. By default, the project folder names will be numbered as FantomG001.Prj, FantomG002.Prj,etc., but the portion preceding the filename extension will be the project name you assign when saving the project.

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 12:05
You mean your no good at math?
Okay i will make it easy for you..
take what we had on the X as a value.. make it 100%
features we had where 100% there on the X

so 100% of something is 100% on the X

on the G you have by comparison 100% of nothing which is Nothing..
Taking away any feature from the G that was on the X is a downgrade unless they have implemented it in a better way..
as we have seen like roland always has done they dont improve on what was good about the previous models they Chop bits off it and then add a new piece that has nothing do do with what they chopped off.
Rps is only 50% working
Smf is 50% working
file import is only 50% working
mixer has mute but no solo 50% working
sequencer you can record but you cant edit 50% working..

okay thats enough math lesson for today...
I will take you through decimals tomorrow...
and maybe the hard stuff later.. Fractions..



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Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 13:11
Oh come on Quinnx. Your just trying to twist our minds here.
"100% of SOMETHING is something on the X AND 100% of NOTHING is nothing in the G"
What an awsome statement. There is sure some high math knowledgement involved here, something that I trully can't achieve. No what? I think you're just trying to be philosophical.

And since you're so good at math don't forget to **ADD** the 100% of something of the G that makes 100% of nothing on the X :-/

I'm going off now and hit a wall.

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 13:19
Absolutely!
The G is 100% that of the G but hardly anything of the X.
(have you hit that wall yet?)



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Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 18:57
(have you hit that wall yet?)
Yes I have. And I have seen the light. That's why I can state:

**anything of the X can be nothing when 20% of the G is 100% of everything**

Now, I'm going off for some green tea!

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 19:04
Look, there is no spoon and the cake is a lie ;)
Whine whine everywhere and not a drop to drink ;)

Re: Why scrap SRX?

14 Jun 2008, 19:08
Are you serious ??? I really thought the spoon was a light. ;-) Must have been the DOES BEERS. I haven't hit the wall after all. I was just lying my face on the cake :-D

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