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Grand piano patch?

Grand piano patch?

4 Jun 2006, 03:07
is there a really good grand piano patch out there. I love the v-synth but all of the piano presets are rather weak. Also, is there a fast way to cut to zones because when I a play live i'd like to cut the bass drum or the snare really fast without jogging to the zone and turning off the oscillator.

thanx

Re: Grand piano patch?

5 Jun 2006, 08:01
Your not going to get a good piano patch out of the V. If you need that you need to get another synth.

Re: Grand piano patch?

5 Jun 2006, 08:39
If I manage to find some great acoustic piano samples, I will make a multisample for the V-Synth. Previously I wanted to use these great samples but they appeared to be a little too noisy and have some clicks/pops.
hey art...these are really bad news!

I think I'll try to programm kind of a "noisy-piano-patch" out of these samples!

which key-range would you recommend to use? ...

greetings!

urs

Re: Grand piano patch?

6 Jun 2006, 07:36
Yes bad news indeed, but I will try to find some other sources though. As about building it yourself, try C#2, F#2, C3, F#3 and up to C6 or C7 as you like. Or start with C#1. You should be able to cover about 8 octaves like this with 16 patch zones.

Re: Grand piano patch?

6 Jun 2006, 07:56
hey art...i will try this!

you are a PRO, im just a little sound-freak!

is the following process the right way to do this kind of work?:

1. download the samples (C1, F1, C2, F2.....etc.)
2. split keyboard in zones
3. set zone 1 to pcm
4. select wave "c1"
5. zone 2 with sample "f1"
6. step 4/5 up to c6 or c7....

so far, so good. no big deal.

but: which pitch-KF and formant-KF should i use? +50? ...of course, i could try, but your the masta....and, what TVA, TVF ENV settings do you recommend? ...

all the files are recorded in different velocity-levels. PP/MF/FF...which one should i use? ...the strongest one or the middles (MF) ?....

please excuse all my questions. without your help i know i'll be frustrated so early and i'll never finish this work.

Re: Grand piano patch?

6 Jun 2006, 07:59
Yes all is correct but after importing the sample into the V, in sample list, you need to set the Original Key parameter for each sample (it's in the "Info" screen, see the bottom buttons row on the LCD).

Re: Grand piano patch?

6 Jun 2006, 08:38
you mean i have to set the wave's original pitch etc?....do i have to set any BPM in edit-screen?....

and what about your ENV-Setting-recommendation?....and velocity-curves in the different pages?.....
goood morning v-tribe

i was downloading all these steinway-samples yesterday. but i must agree with you ART. these samples sounds good but they have no loudness and if I normalize them they are more kind of a "storm" then a piano :-)....

so I decided to stop...

my hope lies on you artemiy :-)

Re: Grand piano patch?

7 Jun 2006, 17:05
1.51 has a really nice piano. Maybe one day there will be a way to switch quickly between 1.51 and 2.0x....?....

Re: Grand piano patch?

8 Jun 2006, 06:01
By the way... Is it possible to simply import preset with all samples (multisamples?) from v1.51 project into 2.0 with perfect result? Or 2.0 rejects any possibility of using multisamples?

Re: Grand piano patch?

12 Jun 2006, 21:05
I agree with the person who said you'd need a different instrument to get a good piano sound across the keyboard, but I was intrigued by the idea. I'd also like a straight piano sound for picking out a key or other compositional tasks where the complexity of the regular synth patches isn't a plus.

I took a Steinway sample from one of my commercial software samplers and processed it in Solo mode. BRW, I found out accidentally that if you put the name of the key in the sample filename, the V-Synth will figure out the Original Key parameter from that. I was able to get a good piano sound (much better than the E. Piano that ships w/ version 2.0) that travels well across the keyboard out of just one key (C4). It works best if you turn off all the "Vari" features on the bottom row of the OSC page. I haven't tried making a multisampled patch yet.

I posted the sample on my site along with the patch:
Conway Grand C4.wav
Conway Grand.p00


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