Recycle

5 Nov 2003, 17:11

Hi Everyone,

I'm in the process of getting a Fantom-S. I only been able to play around with one a little at the local shop here in town, but I was wondering if anyone has tried to connect there Fantom to Recycle. I have a Kurzweil K2500 and I can chop sound up in the Recycle program and then send the samples over to the k2500 by a midi cable or scsi cable. Then make a midi file in Recycle to play the samples back on my K2500 that allows for tempo changes. I know that the Fantom-S does this internal chopping of samples. I was wondering if someone has tried this yet. I can't wait to get that Fantom. My K2500 is SO HEAVY that I almost hate playing gigs with it. I'm getting the smaller Fantom-S not the 88 key model. I think it will be a great addition to my home studio.

This site is off the chain. I've learned alot of cool stuff by reading some of the post. I wish Roland would put their manual on line, but this sit is better that the manual.

Regards,
Kai Wen

Re: Recycle

5 Nov 2003, 17:50

Well, chopping is very fast on Fantom-S - you can chop the sample and almost instantly make a drum set out of it - so you can re-arrange it into new phrases straight away.

Glad you like this place and hope you'll stay for a long time here!

Good luck!

Re: Recycle

5 Nov 2003, 18:56

Just wanted to reinforce what Artemio said. Sample chopping in the F-S is easy and works great so long as the sample to be chopped will sound good chopped, as I have found not every sample is meant to be chopped.

You the man, Artemio!

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Re: Recycle

5 Nov 2003, 19:22

I never tried ReCyle with my FS88 when I owned it. However, I agree it is an excellent tool. I use ReCyle to complement my MPC's. The FS has very good chopping features. ReCycle allows you to control a few more parameters. FS owners might want to download the demo version and try this software.

Best chopping results are archieved with drum tracks. They are the easiest to work with. Many other sound files can benefit from ReCyle. For example, I found the software was helpful when matching the beginning and ending of a long and varied arpeggiated sample. One of the demo files is a Funky Rhodes sample that can teach you a few things about chopping samples other than drum sound files.

Recyle

5 Nov 2003, 19:47

Yeah...I know that the FS can chop up samples pretty fast. That's part of the appeal of getting one. I was just wondering if you could hook the FS to the PC and send the sample over to the FS FROM Recyle. I know that you can send over sample by way of the USB, but my question is regarding Recyle and the FS. I was just wondering. I think Recyle will even make a patch for you. All you have to do then is load up the midi file created by Recyle to play your Recyle loop on your gear. I don't use this at all in my music production, but I got a copy of the program awhile back and it's off the hook. I know the FS will do this for me, but I was wondering how compatiable the FS was to ReCyle.

I was just wondering. I don't have the FS yet, but I have one on hold and should get it around Dec.

Thanks for the input. Once again the site it GREAT.

Kai

Actually I think the Fantom does a poor job

5 Nov 2003, 21:15

If you use recycle, you have access to A LOT more parameters. It is much quicker as well. The reason the Fantom is fast, is that it only does 16 slices, the last slice will be the rest of the sample. I asked a roland tech at AES why there is a 16 slice limit, and he said becuase that way you can put them to the pads. That is stupid, Triton Studio slices just as fast and does up to 127 slices, Motif and ES do also. Fantom also does not create a midi file, so good luck if you want to speed up/slow down a loop. I love my Fantom but Roland has a bunch of dumbasses working for them.

Re: Recycle

5 Nov 2003, 22:07

Nice points NY2G! Glad you pointed them out to paint a clearer picture of what Kai Wen can expect.

You the man, Artemio!

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Check out Lawrence's Fantom-S website: http://fantom.wilkesworld.co.uk/
Check out Artemio's other Fantom-S website: http://artemiolabs.com/

Hmmm.

6 Nov 2003, 01:53

That's kind of messed up. It's cool because I still have my K2500 to work with that's is not so caged in as the FS. I don't used Recyle because I don't used a lot of sample loops. If I want to I have the tools to do so. I still can't wait to get the FS. It seems like I'll be (midi)ing up the FS to my K2500 or Cubase. Why would Roland make their stuff not export midi files or import them? Oh Well.

Re: Recycle

6 Nov 2003, 02:01

Kai Wen -

The FS can export and import midi files via USB. To save it as a midi file on the FS, you use the smf format instead of the default .svq format.

My Fantom-S songs are at: http://dhsw.home.comcast.net