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Step Reset

Any MIDI message that resets the STEP Playback Mode to the beginning of the sample? It's to difficult (impossible?) to program stuff in a sequencer when the sample always starts in a different position.
Thanks

Re: Step Reset

24 Feb 2006, 09:50
I'd set it to "EVENT" and trigger the separate chops from different keys.

Re: Step Reset

24 Feb 2006, 18:37
Here's the deal: I've sampled myself singing harmonies in my sequencer as a loop in the XT. Slicing it properly, encoding this as "ensemble" and setting playback to "step" allows me to go wild on the keyboard, very rapidly, and the phrasing stays the same although I'm pitching each syllable with the key I'm playing (the whole point of "step" playback).

Unfortunately, there's no way to reset the step sequence (OS 3 anyone?) Let's say the phrase goes "Mary had a little lamb" and that you try to record it into a 2-bar sequence track. You jam along on the keys, and you come up with "ma-ry-had-a-lit-tle" on the notes C-D-E-F-G-A and you like it like that. Now you rewind and play. What you get is C-D-E-F-G-A playing "lamb-ma-ry-had-a-lit", which is NOT what you recorded. Most annoying.

Other than recording it in audio, I can see no way out of it. Although this randomization can produce some cool effects, I would really like to have a MIDI message reset the step sequence to the beginning when I want to.

Cheers.

Re: Step Reset

25 Feb 2006, 08:22
Don´t know but that sounds like your recorded part is being quantised hence moving the position of when it triggers each syllable or you haven´t adjusted for the latency of the driver´s in your setup recording midi so they´re playing back slightly out of step from where you originally played them otherwise it should sound exactly as you played it to start with you might just have to fiddle a bit with the timing to get what you want. Oh and learn to be extremely accuratewith your playing.

best of luck

the Sherriff

Re: Step Reset

25 Feb 2006, 10:31
No Sheriff, I think you misunderstood nawyecky. Indeed in STEP mode the only way to reset it is to reload the patch.

Re: Step Reset

25 Feb 2006, 14:13
This is not quite what nawyecky wants, but I've done some harmonies like this:

Put the variphrase playback to legato and make the patch monophonic. Then play in a legato style. It will return to the start of the sample always when the last key is released.

You can't change the timing of the syllables doing this, but you can play different pitches for each one.

Or.... and this is kinda tedious....
Make 8 zones or so (depending on how many words), each one only one semitone in size, going up from middle C.
Put the same sample on all the zones, set playback on them all to event.
Each zone will now contain a seperate syllable, and you can pitch them by editing the osc pitch in each zone.

Re: Step Reset

25 Feb 2006, 19:16
hi guys

sorry if I did misunderstand earlier heavy night last night. My only other suggestion is to make sure the sample your using is the exact length you need for your loop if that's 2 bars and you want an extra beat of silence make sure your sample has the extra bit on the end. if your refering to the step sequencer is it not possible to adjust the end position of that sequence as you can with the arpeggiator to make it reset where you want ? I'm probably still not understanding exactly what your trying to do so apologies if this is another red herring.

cheers the Sherriff

Re: Step Reset

26 Feb 2006, 03:01
Hmm, but then if you need to skip 3 steps you need to press it 3 times, and what if you press it 4 times by accident? ;-)

Re: Step Reset

26 Feb 2006, 06:32
Thanks a lot for trying to help. At least now I see that there's no way to do that easily (Sherriff DID misunderstand me... :) Legato play doesn't help me because the whole point of what I do is play with the phoneme's length, some of which are played very staccato.

If there's a list somewhere which guys at Roland read sometimes, may I suggest that this issue be adressed if and when there's an OS 3. This is a *major* oversight imho, and once you stop playing around and want to get things done you realize that you can't get your $2000 beast to do a very simple thing...

To be clear, this is not a complaint such as "why didn't you add such and such" and "could we please have (whatever)". You can't brand a synth as performing "Elastic Audio Synthesis" if there's no way to rewind a sliced sample to the beginning. Shame.

Cheers.

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