Loading individual patches via USB

There is no way to load a project partially. You can however, do the following: power up while holding the EXIT key: this will boot up the V-Synth with a clean project. Then, go to MODE -> Disk -> Import Files and import the patches you want to load into the current clean project. Then you can play them instantly.


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Artemio,

I am not sure I understand the difference between doing what you described and loading the patches into a current project that has open patch slots.

Thanks!

Mitch

Hi Mitch, the way I add a patch is to

1. Have V connected via USB so that the V-synth appears as a drive on your desktop.

2. Drag patch into V-synth\Internal.prj\patch.

3. Eject drive from desktop.

4. Import file(s) from DISK mode on V-synth.

Things to note.

If the patch imported is is say 001 and that patch is already occupied ie Mad Orch, then the next empty slot will be filled.

Check that the waves that the patch are dependant on are loaded too. (The Librarian is an easy way to check dependency and reducency of waves)

You can also build the project you want on your desktop and then transfer them.

Cheers

Hi guys

Have to agree with D70 the librarian is your best tool for organising your projects and compiling new ones with your favourite patches I've just started to do this and its very straightforward if you read the instructions carefully.

I currently starting to organise my sounds into folders of specific sounds so I know where to find my favourite pianos synths ,etc... Then for each project I'm involved in I set up a Project for that particular band or event and put the sounds I actually need and no others to mess up the system. I also have a general project for those times when you aren't sure exactly which sounds you need this project has a good selection of my most obvious sounds which may be needed.

This all means I've stopped lugging around half of my gear just on the off chance I might need some of it....

My back is feeling so much better these days you just woudn't believe..

cheers

the sherriff

Hi,

I posted in the software thread just a bit ago. Is this discussed in the manual in-depth? What I'd like to do is basically weed out patches that I don't care for/have any possible use for (not that I am going to completely wipe 80+% of the patches). I saved off the internal.prj folder to the PC via USB connection. I loaded it into Librarian and was able to see the patches but that's about it. I wasn't able to drill down or load any of them individually with this program. I am just wondering what I am missing here.

Thanks!

Mike

http://www.forlorn-souls.net
http://www.soundclick.com/darkenedsoulmusic.htm

I personaly find it easyer to delete the patches on the V-Synth
and then save the remains as a project

dido

Well I'll be your huckleberry....

Cromio,

That didn't answer my question and was of no help. It appears noone feels they should reply to a question I've asked in here at least twice. Doesn't make me feel welcome here at this forum and neither to bother picking anyones brains here due to the lack of any decent response. What gives here? I don't have enough points in replies/responses to merit a response to a simple question?

Mike

http://www.forlorn-souls.net
http://www.soundclick.com/darkenedsoulmusic.htm

Mike,
its been a while since i last used the libarian but as far as i remember it works like this:
In the libarian you open up some existing projects and create a blank new one.
Than you simply drag and drop patches that you like from the existing ones into the blank one, save it and transfer that into the V-Synth.
(mayne its not drag and drop but copy/paste but generally you get the idea)
Not sure if that works between 1.51 projects and 2.0 ones as
I havent tried that yet.

Hope that helps
best
Mr.XR

the difference between theory and practise is that in theory there is no difference

1st I'm not a V-Synth guru, I don't pretend to be and I'm sure there are lots of people here who know a deal lot more than me
my inteest in participating in this forum is to learn from the others, and when I post a personal opinion I may always lern from my mistakes, as ong as anyone is kind enough to correct me

so back to your post:
"What I'd like to do is basically weed out patches that I don't care for" that is what you wrote to THIS I gave my answer, no need to be so upset

in what relates to the librarian I think it's a nice program to visualise what patches use what waves, to rename patches and waves and interchange patches and waves between projects, so if you want to use Librarian to select your patches you might want to create a new empty project open both (the old one and the new one) and drag and drop the ones you want to keep in the new project

to load them to the V-Synth you load this new project as usual
or
you can put the all project folder (the old one) into the V-Synth disk via USB and then using DISK > IMPORT FILES select the patches you want to use (the selected patches will bring along any waves that are connected to them

I hope this helps you, but if it doesn't please restrain your darkened being as I think this is a very usefull and nice forum full of real savy people and musicians who it seems to me have been around the world of synths for a long time

all the best to all in the forum

if you just want to go through and weed out the patches, then hook up your V via usb and open it up as an external drive (make sure you V is set to internal rather than pc card) on your comp. look through the patches folder located within the prj folder and delete the patches you don't like, and if you want to get rid if the waves to make more room for your own, then go into the waves folder located within the prj folder and get rid of what you dont like as well. I personally found no use for the librarian, but to each there own I suppose. There you go, ANOTHER way to do it. Does anybody read the manuals? I don't mean to be an ass at all, but RTMFM!!! Don't get mad at people when you haven't looked at the obvious. You have had plenty of responces that merit usefull. I'm not trying to make trouble, just giving you some advice- this forum is a very good resource, and everybody tries to help everybody. Be patient.

Well I'll be your huckleberry....

Ah, there is the answer I was sort of looking for! So I connect to the V-Synth via USB (not as PC...got that part earlier on poking around) and copy that off to the PC. Did that previously. Now open that *and* (here's the missing key!) open a blank one and copy/paste into the new project. That sounds like it'll work for me. As for deleteing them outright...I'd rather not blatantly do that in case a patch uses the same wave as another (which is possible I believe?).

Didn't mean to bitch, I was looking for the (un)obvious of having to open a 2nd project and either dupe it and weed it out or copy just what I want to it. I'll see how this goes when I get back to poking around on it. I am completely new to this beast and have hardly touched it as of late due to other stuff higher up in the priorities.

Thanks!

Mike

http://www.forlorn-souls.net
http://www.soundclick.com/darkenedsoulmusic.htm

No offense intended...I was looking for a more clear/concise use of this program is all as it seems pretty sparse but apparently folks use it and like what it does. I'll have to dig in the manual about projects (loading, etc...). But if say I make a dupe of the existing internal project obviously I can't load the entire thing up due to lack of storage space on the synth.

This seems to indicate that I'd have to weed out the internal project, re-load it back up, then load up my project with whatever patches I feel like toying with or munging/mangling and/or loading in my own waves to be set up as completely new patches right?

Can the synth be brought up sans internal project (I recall seeing this in a thread elsewhere...kind of like a mini-boot) and then load up my project which would have what I wanted to start with vs all and leave me all the more room to create new patches? If so, how could this become the default start-up at that point? I don't want to start from a completely blank slate, just x amount of existing patches to give me more room to play with. I am not sure how much free space I got left from a full 1.51 load....~20mb max I think if I recall?

Some patches I find interesting, others have no use for me other than to perhaps run thru SIR1008 Impulse Response VSTi in Ableton Live or Acid Pro/Sound Forge and mangle them with some of the Spirit Canyon IR's I purchased (cool stuff to muck around with). I am looking to get the deepest/darkest sounds I can off the synth while mangling them on it. Not that I'll be doing this live any time soon....but for my one-man project.

Peace!

Mike

http://www.forlorn-souls.net
http://www.soundclick.com/darkenedsoulmusic.htm

you will never loose the inicial preset patches no matter what or how many you delete!

if I understood what you want to do I would advise to do the following
- from a clean 1.51 start up > delete all the patches you have no use for
- then perform a clean up (DISK>CLEAN PROJECT), this will re-order the remaining patches and delete all the unused waves (giving more room for your own)
- save what you are left with into the computer as yourproject.prj
- at a later stage you can use any preset waves you might have deleted, for that you only have to import them from the preset memory (DISK>IMPORT FILES)

if at any time you want to revert to the inicial preset patches all you have to do is a FACTORY RESET and bang there you are as if you have never touched this synth before.
(obviously in the meantime if you created any patches you might want to keep you must save them in another project)

if you want to power up the v-Synth with a completely clear slate you must press EXIT while powering up