Can we not have religion on these forums?

LivePsy,

This thread has demonstrated to me again what sets this Forum apart from so many others. A topic like this one, that could easily become flammatory and accusatory, has been discussed in a civil and responsible manner. I tip my hat to the members here.

Bassman

i too am pleased at the way this forum handles itself
even if we agree or disagree everyone is treated with respect, i REALLY appreciate that

Psy, i feel what your saying, really i do, but sometimes some references to religion are just a normal part of ones conversation, like, when i first aquired a fantom, my reaction
"praise the LORD", not to impose what i believe on anyone, but that's just normal to me, i don't really think about it and it's not me trying to convince anyone of what i hold to, basically it's just me being me....

but like i said, i haven't really seen any of the posts you are refrencing so i can't really comment on them in the context of which they were written, if you want, pm me the link to them and i can further see what you are trying to say

thanks folks for the way in which this has been handled on both sides, i've been to many forums where this thread would have been locked before it started, or after because of the immaturity of the members and the insults that would be thrown, none of that here, and that is really refreshing!

you said:
"I am really bothered by religious references in either nicknames or signatures at the end of posts."


well, that sounds like a personal problem. maybe you should work on figuring out why religious references bother you.

i think you need to take some "me" time.

I had to struggle to find the right word and "bother' just seemed to fit best. I know it is vague and several people interpreted that as "offended", which is not quite right.

I have very clear ideas about religious references - and that emphatically is NOT confined to christian beliefs, and I don't think more "me" time will fix some kind of internal problem. May its unfixable

However, my ideas are off topic. I have not wish to express them here. But I'm open to reasonable discussion about it off these forums. How do I pm you Joe?

B

LivePsy,

Cults have always existed, and always will. Members of cults will always take oppertunity to express their dogma. You can't step outside your door, or even rise out of your bed in the morning without evidence of this arriving through your senses in some form.

As I read things, in newsprint, on billboards, in electronic forums such as this one, I generally skim for the information and simply pass over the things that don't interest me. I'm sure most people are the same.

Your initial post, in many places, could have been antagonistic enough to initiate a "flame war" of emotional replys, but didn't. My hat's off to the other members for an uncommon show of maturity.

However, I think your point may be somewhat moot. You may as well have written to your city street departement, complaining about having to drive past churches on your way to work.

Churches will be built along roadways, dogmatic messages will be posted in plain site, and cultists will type tag lines. Tis the way of the human world.

Quixx.

sorry Psy,

without looking i assumed this forum had private messages
you can email me if you wish

saintjoe@sbcglobal.net

Quixx writes: I generally skim for the information and simply pass over the things that don't interest me. I'm sure most people are the same.

Sure. But it is quite easy on the internet for the balance to be lost and for the irrelevant stuff to swamp and drown out the useful information. That is the rule rather than the exception with online forums in my opinion. I have subscribed to online forums where soliciations for prostitution were a larger volume of messages than the ostensible subject of the forum. And others where off-topic debates on religion and politics spoiled the atmosphere. This forum, along with the others that Artemio has started, are very unusual in my opinion for the fact that they are very informative, have a diverse membership, and yet maintain a friendly tone. Here's hoping that that doesn't change.

-illiac

Just to clarify, I'm not QuiNxx I'm Quixx... I've used this particular nickname since BBS days back in 1979.

Quixx.

Oops, sorry for the misspelling, I've edited the post to fix it up!
-illiac

well done everyone in posting very reasonable posts.
Again it shows the level of respect here at this forum for each other.

LivePsy

I'm not sure why you originally posted this question but I would ask 2 questions in response.

1. where would you draw the line?
does that mean although you would know nothing about my beliefs from my posts you might read something about me in my profile that might not be relevant and I'd have to change it????

2. If you were objective than you would probably ask yourself ---why does it bother you in the first place?

If you can honestly say 'yes', then go for it. However, I cannot see they are relevant. I think that any person objectively thinking about that question would come to the same conclusion.

sounds more like subjective thinking than objective.

Oh dear, there's lots of talk of reasonable posts and yet the discussion is now getting around to attacking me personally instead of my topic. Talking about lack of objectivity, try to show more objectivity yourself, Da-man.

Did I say that I had a mission to eliminate christian propaganda? Some certainly took my post as such. Why is that? I re-read that first post and I don't see it.

B

Sorry mate I wasn't attacking you personally. This is the problem with communicating by text. I was only asking questions.

You said you were bothered by it (religious references when used as nicknames or signatures) when I think most of us really aren't. So that is why I was asking you the objective questions of where do you draw the line and why it bothered you and maybe not the rest of us.

I think it is hard to communicate in text without getting your back up. Believe me you're entitled to your opinion. But so are others. That's all I meant about objectivity.

I won't post anymore on here about this but if you want to contact me by email I'd be happy to.

Sorry again if I sounded like I was having a go. I didn't mean it that way and I know you weren't having a go either.

It is extremely difficult to clearly explain yourself and set the tone in which the message is intended. I have learnt a lot about that in this thread.

It sounds so corny, but this has all demonstrated what a robust and friendly environment this forum really is.

I think this thread has gone as far as it can go, but I am keen to continue this issue and religion in general off this forum. Da-man and everyone else, I invite you to email me as livepsy at hotmail dot com. Your opinions will be respected and your email address will not be abused. You might even make a friend.

Cheers,
B

GIVE US...US FREE.

u talk about freedom and then ask that religion be kept OUT. hmmmm

But hey!
Did`nt we all already get religion when we came here..?
Im pretty shure a religion need many followers become one.

and correct me if im wrong
but are`nt all you people`s all followers and
Roland religious Freaks!??



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