** Fantom-S owners PETITION **

dude they dont care about fantom s users.thats obvious this boy artiemo had to create a users group on his own when he got his s.roland figures we are all a bunch of losers who got our s's at a deal when they blew them out .you are wating youre time.accept it and move onyou think yamaha gave motif users anything when the es came out,i dont think so.unless you mean the fantasy trade up program that noone benifited from.

Geeee thanks for your input ..............dude.

Chubby - for your info Artemio started this site before he got his FS. Perhaps in future you could make just a little bit more efort to make some positive contributions to the debate. As the thread starter said, please could we keep all posts on topic. Do you own a Fantom S? Would you like to see it supported? If you do, and you would then please support the petition. If you don't, or are happy not to have any support then please restrain from making worthless comments in this thread.

Steph - I think that all but the hard core FS community is so disillusioned with Roland that they no longer see any benefit in coming to this site..

Toom!

Even though I am perfectly happy with my Fantom S, I think it is appalling behaviour from Roland to stop supporting this instrument after such a short time. I have always had a good relationship with Roland products (all the way back to my old Juno 6 and D-50, all the way up to my XP-80 and beyond) but now I fear that this is about to change. Consider this petition SIGNED.

I am with you Steph.

I own a FS and am very proud and happy with it.

I would like Roland to continue their support for FS.



Yours truly,
Sam.

Sambasevam.S

Co-signed here....

give us an option at least.... Throw us a bone Roland. if not a fix then maybe a free srx piano for the hell of it. or give an open license for a third party to design a new OS for the Fantom-s. Something to heal wounds would be a nice and necessary gesture.

Rebel without Applause.

I will sign anything that puts the screws to Roland. I used to admire them,now thats a thing of the past.

Thanks for being proactive Steph3dfx. Its glad to see someone trying to take action.
Roland has lost all my business due to their marketing tactics and support issues. Plus repair fees are so costly you would almost be better off just going out and buying another keyboard than getting one repaired.






Another Disillusioned Fantom-S owner
(believe me, I have tried to keep a positive attitude....lol)

saad to see such a nice brand making fun of their customers like that...




SIGNED

I fully agree with you

got my sign too

http://www.all41.ws/members/IlanHiliRosen/default.htm

Hmmm... Did you guys get your boards because you wanted future OS updates or you purchased it because you liked the current features? If the first, did Roland promise any? If the latter, why do you complain? Bugs? Okay - post them here and all who can (including me) will do their best to let Roland be aware of them. Other than this, I do not think Roland is obliged to do a thing.

I do not want to sound like a Roland fanatic or something, but hey all, come on, you knew the features when you were purchasing the board. You payed your money for the current version that you got.


A.

I must say that I for one am very disappointed to see you say this artemio. I personally, bought my s88 for the current features. However, much to my shagrin, the s88 didn't possess all the advertised features. Bugs, when is roland going to address the win 98 issue in the s model? They addressed it in the X. Unfortunately, you do sound like a roland fanatic. You are right about one thing though, I did pay my money for the current version that I got. I guess it makes little difference that I was lied to by Roland and Keyboard magazine who was obviously lied to by Roland as well.

Signed, "Nature is hard enough on us, let's not be hard on each other."

PD, if there is a USB storage driver for Fantom-X, it will work for Fantom-S too. And what are the advertised features that your S88 did not include?


A.

I love my fantom S. What support does it need? I have no problems as of yet.... hmm... too much complaining~ not enough music made...

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Artemio, I echo pianodicks disappointment with your comment. Ok, I paid my money for a piece of kit which may or may not do what I expected or was advertised. To have it dropped/superseeded hence lose significant value six months after I purchased was very very disappointing. So now I am reluctant to purchase any future new Roland gear as I will always expect them to pull the same trick. In a small way, this will reduce Roland's profits and slow down their development of new products, such as the Fantom X which I feel was done on the back of the Fantom S that I paid for.

FYI my last three music related purchases have been a Tascam 2488 (I refused on principle to buy Roland/Boss and the Tascam does everything I need thank you very much), a secondhand Yamaha SY85 and a second hand Roland JD990. At least with the latter two they a) won't depreceate in value significantly, and b) I know exactly what the level of support I will be able to get.

Toom! (Forum Member #120)

" And what are the advertised features that your S88 did not include?" Oh I don't know could it possibly be the fact that it originally touted that it was fully compatible with Win98SE?

" PD, if there is a USB storage driver for Fantom-X, it will work for Fantom-S too." Well so far I have tried every driver that I can find available for download and have yet to find one that will let win98se recognize the s88 as a usb storage device. I have asked this question numerous times on this forum over the last 18 months and still have had no luck in attaining this function.

I can understand your defense of Roland and their poor business practices but I can't abide your denegration of those of us that choose to complain, legitimately mind you. JMIO

Signed, "Nature is hard enough on us, let's not be hard on each other."