Keytars & AX Synths

the next AX keytar

the next AX keytar

4 Oct 2013, 19:33
If you're listening, Roland manufacturer...
Take what you've learned on the previous models, what works, what doesn't, what people like:
a) 4 octaves minimum, 5 would bring the instrument respect, anything less puts it in "novelty" or "toy" or "right hand solo only" category.
b) use more keyboard/synth sounds onboard and fewer guitar sounds. most of us have guitar players in our bands, and guitar sounds from a keytar are rarely as good as the real thing. The world is full of eager guitar players.
c) like on the Lucina, put the controls in front of the music keys, its faster and easier to see.
d) should look more like AX-Synth and less like Lucina. The "handle" on Lucina is just an ugly design. move the pitch bender out on a neck.
e) tilt the keys slightly toward the user, so we don't have to lean over when looking for a note. let us stay upright and cool.
f) when you do the above, the body becomes slightly wedge shape with the fat side toward the floor. stuff all the guts under there to minimize the width from front to back of keys. skinny keytars always look cooler, fat keytars look like something hung around your neck as an afterthought.
g) put real strap locks on it. many of us have launched our keyboards during our on-stage moves.
h) Don't let another manufacturer steal your lead in Keytars. Bring this to market ASAP.

I have my wallet open for this next great Roland keytar....

Re: the next AX keytar

24 Jul 2016, 17:00
Looking at Roland release history (Junos, Fantoms, Jupiters...), Models seem to get a refresh every 3 to 7 years. Does this mean a new AX Keytar by 2017?

Re: the next AX keytar

18 Sep 2016, 17:56
They could even trim off 4 lbs, and one octave from the JunoDS 61, and re-package that as the next keytar...
Come on, Roland. It can't be that difficult... :-)

Re: the next AX keytar

30 Mar 2020, 17:20
Well, we got some good synth engine and control improvements with the AX-Edge. But Roland still fell short on designing an ergonomic and comfortable keyboard. Someday, when its well depreciated, i may cut mine up and rebuild it the way I envision it.

Re: the next AX keytar

30 Mar 2020, 22:24
All I want right now is something Roland can deliver without changing a bit of firmware or hardware: A PC-based editor for the AX-Edge. By far its weakest point.

Re: the next AX keytar

2 Dec 2020, 18:38
Yes, I'm pleased to see that the AX-EDGE accomplished items a, b, d, e, and f from my list above. Thank You Roland!

Re: the next AX keytar

2 Dec 2020, 18:39
Tom Williams wrote:
All I want right now is something Roland can deliver without changing a bit of firmware or hardware: A PC-based editor for the AX-Edge. By far its weakest point.

Tom, did they ever release a PC based editor?

Re: the next AX keytar

2 Dec 2020, 18:42
sixfeetunder wrote:
Well, we got some good synth engine and control improvements with the AX-Edge. But Roland still fell short on designing an ergonomic and comfortable keyboard. Someday, when its well depreciated, i may cut mine up and rebuild it the way I envision it.

Here's my first simple conversion of a keyboard into a keytar by adding strap-posts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7YHznSAEYY

Re: the next AX keytar

16 Sep 2023, 18:44
Just to counter sixfeetunder's request for a bigger, heavier, longer instrument by adding another octave, I'd like to see an easier to handle and carry smaller, lighter, shorter version of the AX with only 39 keys (yes, for right hand only play). If the Korg had full-sized keys, it would have made a great choice for me but it doesn't so it isn't. Your other keyboards have 60, 76, and 88 key versions. Why can't the AX have a 37, 49, and 61 key version? I understand that some of the control layout would need to be altered for the shorter version.

Re: the next AX keytar

27 Nov 2024, 17:15
With the small circuit boards today, there's no reason to have such a bulky keytar. Keytar with onboard sounds should be as small as the old midi-controller-keytars.

I investigated cutting up my AX-Edge to make it smaller lighter, e.g. move some of the controls on the outer end of the neck, and chop off 8 inches from the neck, remove the "edge" and everything under it. But every cut that I considered, would significantly weaken the strength of the shell, and some cuts would require cutting/patching the circuit boards within (which, if i ever need a tech to work on it, they will take one look and refuse to work on it)

So I abandoned that idea.

sixfeetunder wrote:
Well, we got some good synth engine and control improvements with the AX-Edge. But Roland still fell short on designing an ergonomic and comfortable keyboard. Someday, when its well depreciated, i may cut mine up and rebuild it the way I envision it.
Last edited by sixfeetunder on 30 Nov 2024, 00:43, edited 1 time in total.

Re: the next AX keytar

27 Nov 2024, 17:21
Right on schedule in 2018 we got the AX-EDGE.
sixfeetunder wrote:
Looking at Roland release history (Junos, Fantoms, Jupiters...), Models seem to get a refresh every 3 to 7 years. Does this mean a new AX Keytar by 2017?

Re: the next AX keytar

27 Nov 2024, 17:35
The AX-09 with 37 keys is just that. small, light, fast/easy accessible controls, lots of good curated sounds. I love playing mine. But its ugly, no splits, no aftertouch, limited sound editing >>thats when i pull out my AX-EDGE.
RickyDee wrote:
Just to counter sixfeetunder's request for a bigger, heavier, longer instrument by adding another octave, I'd like to see an easier to handle and carry smaller, lighter, shorter version of the AX with only 39 keys (yes, for right hand only play). If the Korg had full-sized keys, it would have made a great choice for me but it doesn't so it isn't. Your other keyboards have 60, 76, and 88 key versions. Why can't the AX have a 37, 49, and 61 key version? I understand that some of the control layout would need to be altered for the shorter version.

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