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Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

21 Nov 2004, 18:04
Hello everyone!! I need your help!! This is my first post so please bear with me. I have been on here for awhile now trying to search/get the hang of things around here. I am a new Fantom XR owner (yesterday!). I've been on fire since I woke up (hours ago) but I am starting to frustrate myself.

I am using a midi guitar as a controller through the Axon Ax100 to control my Fantom XR. The Axon gives each string it's own midi channel (1-6). The problem is I don't know how to set the Fantom XR to get all six strings to sound. Right now only the e string (midi channel 1) will sound.

Is there a way to set it to receive multiple midi channels at the same time (in my case midi channels 1-6)?

By the way I have noticed there is an update for the XR. Is there a place with detailed information on how to update via the USB port?

Thanks again, truly stumped!! :)

Re: Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

21 Nov 2004, 23:43
Thank you so much for that link!..The update was trouble free!..I now have OS 1.01!..I still haven't been able to figure out the midi channel thing yet though..

Re: Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

22 Nov 2004, 01:17
Whoa...
too many midi channel for a guitar.. LOL.
If you want many midi channel sound at once, you need to switch the module into performance mode(multi channel mode). You will have 16 midi channel.
The thing is how do you play your midi guitar?
I mean different string will give different sound?
Or all 6 channel sound the same at all time?
Is there any way you can set midi channels to a specific one at your controller? If not, you need to use your computer to edit FXR with its editor. Go to performance mode, set all 6 midi channels to a single patch of your choice. And save that performance. You need to create performances for different sounds. You can have up to 64 user(internal memory) performances and 64 storage card performances.

Re: Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

22 Nov 2004, 18:00
Thanks for that info!..I'm going to work on it some more tonight..You can give each string on the guitar it's own sound if you want to..you can also give them all the same sound..i'm trying to figure out now if the answer is to have 1 midi channel for each string, or if there is a better way to do this..if i set the string mode on the axon to common (all six strings on one midi channel) instead of separate (each string on it's own midi channel) I can hear all six strings in whatever patch is called up, but then i lose the pitch bend function!?..do i need a seperate midi channel for each string? this is the first sound module i've ever had. i've been saving up for one for some time now and after discovering this board i was inspired to get a Fantom XR..This is also my first encounter with midi..My hat is off to all you keybord players out there, I had no idea THIS is what you were dealing with!!! :)

Re: Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

22 Nov 2004, 18:35
Fantar,
I use an Axon as well. Your Axon can use common mode (all 6 strings the same midi channel) or Multi Mode where each string has its own midi channel. Of course the Axon can do anything in between. If you set the Axon to common mode then you can play your FXR in performance mode. If you have a different midi channel for each string then you will have to be in multi-mode on the FXR and make the assignments beforehand deciding which sound to assign each midi channel. The same holds true for the note range. I rarely use anything but common mode since I work primarily in the studio and can layer at will in my sequencer of choice. But live its another matter entirely.

Stephanie Sante
www.santemusic.com
(Exploring the Fantom Universe)
Stephanie Sante
www.santemusic.com
(Exploring the Fantom Universe)

Re: Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

22 Nov 2004, 19:35
thank you for taking the time to help!..congatulations on your wonderful site and your many accomplishments!..with all the creative freedom technology has brought us, it sure is exciting to be a musician these days!..

Re: Help... midi guitar as a controller Axon & XR

22 Nov 2004, 19:45
Hey Fantar,
If you want to play Axon as one instrument, like guitar, you may need all strings to one midi channel. Put the FXR in patch mode and select a guitar patch of your choice.
Refer to the manual to select patches using category function.
You may use fantom X editor program to create your own guitar sound but hold off for a while till things settle.
You may not need seperate midi channel for each string. Tried it out first though. It depends on you too. What kind of guitar are you trying to simulate?
You may use performance mode if you want each guitar string to sound little diffrently.; i.e. create and assign specific sounding patch to each string.
You still can use pitch bend for any mode at FXR.
Midi has 16 channels typically and , yeah, kinda confusing at first. But you will get used to it.
One thing you need to do is hook up your FXR to computer and learn to use FantomX editor. Easier to "visualize" the sound you gonna create or modify.

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