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Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

30 Aug 2017, 10:43
Hi,

Is there any way to save "selected" Expansion Tones into my User Tone Banks... so they can be accessed directly, without having to load the relevant Expansion Module into a slot?

When I have "written" Expansion Tones to my USER banks, they only sound if the original tone is loaded into an Expansion slot. That doesn't seem very helpful??

It appears that when you tweek an Expansion tone and "write" it to a User Bank, maybe it is only the "tweeked settings" that are stored in the User Bank, and you have to have the orginal tone / partials loaded in an Expansion slot.

Am I being dumb??

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

11 Sep 2017, 16:35
Imagine, that the EXPs are Hardware-ROMs. When you remove them, the sounds on it are not more available. When you store an EXP-Sound into a User-Memory-Place and after that you remove the EXP, you will hear - nothing! The parameters in the User-Memory are only links to the EXP - same as a hardware-ROM!

Candy

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

30 Oct 2017, 08:05
Candy wrote:
Imagine, that the EXPs are Hardware-ROMs. When you remove them, the sounds on it are not more available. When you store an EXP-Sound into a User-Memory-Place and after that you remove the EXP, you will hear - nothing! The parameters in the User-Memory are only links to the EXP - same as a hardware-ROM!

Candy
Candy said it all!

The only thing you can do is to manage loading the EXPs into the Slots and then changing to the corresponding StudioSet having those EXPs (or the other way around), via a keyboard/Controller. Just need to program the controller to send the corresponding SysEx messages. Two button presses and you are up and running.

Cheers,
PauloF
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

16 Feb 2018, 10:10


Thanks for the info some time back (PauloF and Candy).

It has taken me months to master this module and all its control options, but I am finally very happy with what it offers.

Recently however I have hit a very disturbing (seemingly random) problem with the unit.

Every now and then (seems random) the unit applies "flam" to snare and other sounds in all its drumkits! ... and clearly this completely destroys my drum track! I can find no explanation of cause of this.
The only way to rectify this is to reboot the module(not a viable option!)

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Anybody able to help?

Thx
Huntly

Flam on snare sets randomly

15 Oct 2023, 08:28
... Recently I have hit a very disturbing (seemingly random) problem with the unit. Every now and then (seems random) the unit applies "flam" to snare and other sounds in all its drumkits! ... and clearly this completely destroys my drum track! I can find no explanation of the cause ...

Anyone experienced this??
It happens when it is playing a midi sequence

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

3 May 2024, 18:17
I am not 100% certain, but I think its the modwheel being activated. Since a lot of Drums have some articulations, using the modwheel will add flam to some sounds in drumkits. try turning the modulation to zero.

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

18 Nov 2024, 02:13
I think you can select a new card for each of the 4 slots via sysex.

All you'd need to do is send the 4 sysex strings to the module.

In theory...

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

18 Nov 2024, 15:07
Monkey Man wrote:
I think you can select a new card for each of the 4 slots via sysex.

All you'd need to do is send the 4 sysex strings to the module.

In theory...
You can load expansion cards with sysex (as well as ask which cards are currently loaded), but I'm not sure if that was the actual question.

If you edit a tone that belongs to an expansion card and save it as a new user preset, you can still only use it if the expansion card on which the original tone was located is currently loaded. What you store in a user preset is basically only the settings for filters and envelopes and lfos and fx, but the underlying basic waveforms themselves are not copied/duplicated into the user presets (just a reference to the waveform that lives on the expansion card).

Re: Writing "selected" Expansion Tones into User Tone Banks

18 Nov 2024, 22:21
Ahh... correct weight mate; thank you.

I imagined his trying to set things up in a DAW-project situation. My bad.

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