Namn 2013, a Bust?

RayS wrote:

I am not impressed with the MS20 as creating "Flying Saucer" sounds gets boring very quickly!!

LOL !
Yea I don't get the hype over MS20, it does absolutely nothing for me .
I think people just get exsited over new stuff some time but really if you want a mono synth that bad just get one of the Moogs like the Sub Phatty . The MS20 looks like a toy to me IMHO .

Now the Prophet 12 looks really interesting!!

Yea it does .

Well, who is the MOST disappointed? Me!!!

You guys are privy to events I can't even find on Google!

Namn, Musicmeese...and who knows what else!

Bollocks!! ;-)

Rocness, .. ha ha.. Go watch the Sonicstate video for the MS20 with Korgs Steve McNally. You can tell he isnt impressed either and doesnt even know the price and stumbles on what is included with it and how its played. ..ha ha. If King Korg is the King, then I would hate to see the Queen Korg! Korg was on the right track with the Triton, OASYS and especially the "Z1" but they have lost their way!! Sad...

Korg should have re-released and updated the Z1 with a new touchscreen, software, arps, loops and fixed all the problems the old Z1 had. Are you listening Korg?? That would be a sensation worth looking at!! I love that synth!! Go listen to some of the sounds that thing puts out!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZKzLZ0o7w

Glad I dont own an original MS20 as they are now worth 50% less and I bet you will see many of them on Ebay 4 sale now.

And just remember even though we didnt get any updates..and after all the smoke blows over, the JP80 is King-Roland.. and nothing at Namm this year even comes close to topping it!!

RayS wrote:

I am not impressed with the MS20 as creating "Flying Saucer" sounds gets boring very quickly!!

Ah, come on! Why so harsh? ... ;)

I really love the polyphonic MS-20 physical modeling version on my OASYS(es) very much!
The MS-20 EXi is really a great, unique, very musical and versatile synth, especially in this polyphonic OASYS version...

Rocness wrote:

The MS20 looks like a toy to me IMHO

The new Mini MS-20 is indeed a toy, but a very nice one, which I will buy for my almost 2 years old nephew to his birthday. He already enjoys playing a Korg MicroPIANO, which I gave him to his birth. He really loves to play music and it's incredible to observe his fast progress! His improvisations sound of course still very "vanguard"... ;)

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SoundworldA.D. wrote:

Well, who is the MOST disappointed? Me!!!

You guys are privy to events I can't even find on Google!

Namn, Musicmeese...and who knows what else!

Bollocks!! ;-)

As Ray said they will bring you up to speed here http://sonicstate.com/

RayS wrote:

Rocness, .. ha ha.. Go watch the Sonicstate video for the MS20 with Korgs Steve McNally.

Ha ha , yea I saw that , looks like The Jupiter-80 is still on top for now .

The sad part is people are so analog crazy that there missing out on some great digital synths .
It's to the point where if anything is analog people think it must be good with out considering workflow or anything .

What's interesting to me is that Roland and Yamaha have been very quiet lately .
I'm starting to think that they may feel Musikmesse is the place to really shine , thats where the Jupiter-80 stole the show remember.

Rocness wrote:

The sad part is people are so analog crazy that there missing out on some great digital synths .

LOL...yes, but luckily only in the small world of Gearslutz.com! The real world is still bigger than GS... ;)

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Dany wrote:

LOL...yes, but luckily only in the small world of Gearslutz.com! The real world is still bigger than GS... ;)

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You can say that agin Dany .
They even bash Moog over there the nerve lol.

You know you just reminded of the MS20 on the Oasys , it is quite remarkable isn't it , with the huge touch screen an all . And to be able to layer it with the poly6 . Nice

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I'm actually glad nothing lustworthy come out. I can spend my money on Vintage Vibe's new Vibanet instead.

I am not impressed with the MS20 as creating "Flying Saucer" sounds gets boring very quickly!!

If that are the only sounds you can get out of a MS20, well, you have to work on your sound designing skills I suppose. ;)
It perfectly fits in the analog corner of my studio next to my MiniBrute and Dark Energy/Dark Time.

I think the new Prophet 12 is very nice. The nicest analog since the Andromeda I think.

In the KingKorg demos sounds I hear nothing that I can't do with the stuf I own.

I really like the different models of the X32 mixerl Behringer is planning to release.

As for the JP80, I really hope that Roland will extend the possibilities of the iPad editor with the organ part of the VR-09 editor.

As Ray said they will bring you up to speed here http://sonicstate.com/

Thanks Roc n' Ray. Cool site. Added it to me favourites.

But, you must have known that my jest was not aimed at missing any knews! ;-D

Hey, maybe they should rename NAMM as "MusicMess!"

Tom_1970 wrote:

I am not impressed with the MS20 as creating "Flying Saucer" sounds gets boring very quickly!!

If that are the only sounds you can get out of a MS20, well, you have to work on your sound designing skills I suppose. ;)
It perfectly fits in the analog corner of my studio next to my MiniBrute and Dark Energy/Dark Time.

I think the new Prophet 12 is very nice. The nicest analog since the Andromeda I think.

In the KingKorg demos sounds I hear nothing that I can't do with the stuf I own.

I really like the different models of the X32 mixerl Behringer is planning to release.

As for the JP80, I really hope that Roland will extend the possibilities of the iPad editor with the organ part of the VR-09 editor.

Yeah Tom, I am not really into the Moog or MS20 thing.. , I like Pads.. and darker sounds..etc// Roland D50 etc..

What fries my butt about Roland and Korg is seeing all the great sound technology these mfrs create and start to use. Then just when they get something good going.. VSynth, D-50. Korg Z1, MOSS, OASYS etc ..they seemingly just abandon or shelve it and start something else new, leaving it on the table unfinished. I hope it wont be the case for the JP80.

I was kind of excited about the MS-20 mini for a moment, but I have the Legacy Korg software
and the MS-20 controller, so that's pretty close - within 90% there for me anyway.

I really DON'T want another 37 key mini keyboard, my hands are just too big !!

Marty.

For me the highlight of the show was Kawai Virtual Piano Controller VPC. They claim an authentic piano "feel" with real wooden keys that pivot and triple sensor detection. What this means is the note can be retriggered w/o completely lifting the key. They have created special touch response curves for software plugins like Ivory and Alicias Keys. Looks like a real winner. Chicken dinner!

Prophet 12 looked interesting at first but then I realized its a VA synth with analog filters + other processing. It sounds killer. Please correct me if I'm wrong about the VA thing. I'm a little skeptical about Dave Smith build quality so I hope to get a hands on soon.

Otherwise it was a good Namm. Rack mount Kemper, Suhr double neck Modern, a new John Petrucci guitar and these new synths from Korg. Pretty cool stuff.

Devnor wrote:

Prophet 12 looked interesting at first but then I realized its a VA synth with analog filters + other processing. It sounds killer. Please correct me if I'm wrong about the VA thing. I'm a little skeptical about Dave Smith build quality so I hope to get a hands on soon.

Dev, I watched the whole Video with Dave Smith himself demoing and I'm 100% sure it's 12 analog voices.
Here it is,
http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/namm-2013-dave-smith-unveils-prophet-12-analogue-synth-570114

Pretty impressive I thought :-)

VPC sounds very interesting also, nothing gets even close to a real piano interaction and that might
just swing it.
Marty.