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How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

26 Nov 2012, 15:50
Hi all

I have a G6. Given the capabilities of this instrument, I want my patches to be closer to the original ones in the songs that I play. So I am trying to learn how to tweak patches to get desired results. So far I have failed miserably. There are so many parameters/effects one can change. Can you guys give me advice on how you learned basic tweaking? Here is an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no5A-0Ily-Q

I think this guy did a decent job of tweaking drum sets / patches to get an awesome midi recording. Despite my attempts, I can't get the drum sounds and the piano sound he created. Can I have some advice on this matter please?

Thanks for any help!

Re: How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

26 Nov 2012, 18:21
To clarify, I know there is a whole world of synthesis out there but it seems that people mostly do tweaks here and there to achieve what they need (instead of rocket science sound engineering). This is what I am trying to learn. The sounds in the youtube video were good examples I thought...

Re: How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

26 Nov 2012, 19:13
There can be a lot to learn maybe try buying this

http://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=45857

The original owner of this site wrote the excellent Fantom g tweakbook which will take you through the Fantom g. This package is 19 bucks pretty good value. I bought the tweakbook when I bought my g and it was a great buy.

The Fanrom has a deep editing engine for sounds it can take a but of time I learn how the system works.

Re: How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

27 Nov 2012, 14:14
especially if one's into editing electric pianos and piano's there is a very long learning curve. most of the patches ive played made by others have very abrupt transisions between the tone layers making it hard to play unless it's a very limited velocity range in the background. this is why i only play my own patches for main instruments and use the presets as background which i only do very limited editing (attack and release time).

the velocity sensitivity, layer switching, blending, etc all come from experience.

Re: How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

30 Dec 2012, 17:18
kenchan wrote:
especially if one's into editing electric pianos and piano's there is a very long learning curve. most of the patches ive played made by others have very abrupt transisions between the tone layers making it hard to play unless it's a very limited velocity range in the background. this is why i only play my own patches for main instruments and use the presets as background which i only do very limited editing (attack and release time).

the velocity sensitivity, layer switching, blending, etc all come from experience.
Hi Kenchan I have download your .mid patches for the Steinway Piano, could you please tell me how I load them as I'm sure Im not doing something right.

Thanks

Re: How do you guys achieve the patches you need?

30 Dec 2012, 20:02
bluehonour wrote:
Hi all

I have a G6. Given the capabilities of this instrument, I want my patches to be closer to the original ones in the songs that I play. So I am trying to learn how to tweak patches to get desired results. So far I have failed miserably. There are so many parameters/effects one can change. Can you guys give me advice on how you learned basic tweaking? Here is an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no5A-0Ily-Q

I think this guy did a decent job of tweaking drum sets / patches to get an awesome midi recording. Despite my attempts, I can't get the drum sounds and the piano sound he created. Can I have some advice on this matter please?

Thanks for any help!

All I can say is EXPERIMENT,EXPERIMENT! You really can't do any damage at all going in full speed and changing settings,and listening with your own ears what you are changing. I guess it does make sense to know SOME basics,and understand exactly what you are messing with(filters,eq,frequency harmonics,etc)...That's exactly how I learn,and still to this day continue to learn,but I also wanted to know ground up the fundamentals of sound and sound engineering,did a lot of research on the net,cause it definitely helped me understand things in a clearer picture,it will definitely help you to understand and achieve exactly the results you want to get. Hope this helped! Happy New Year to All!!!


Only thing I can say is EXPERIMENT,EXPERIMENT....

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