Multisampling---New To This

30 Oct 2012, 20:02

Hello All,

I have a question,I'm new to sampling,and want to try multisampling a friend of mine's keyboard.

My question is: How many samples do you all recommend PER OCTAVE to get a realistic sound be it an organ,string,piano sound? I was thinking at sampling at C,Eb,F,and again at A for each and every octave..I know it depends on the frequency and harmonic content of the sound,but sampling at the keys above would leave a sample shift of a maximum of only 3-4 half steps per sample,and this to me sounds acceptable,not pushing any one sample way out of it's range too far.

I would like to hear from folks who have a lot of experience with this,and who have multisampled various instrument types,and find out the best possible route to go with this...Thanks to all for your help!

Re: Multisampling---New To This

5 Nov 2012, 11:06

Sounds about right, I multisampled my stage piano into my g8 to save me carting both to gigs (as the g8 alone knackers me out, and compared to my stage the g8's pianos just don't cut it) can't remember off the top of my head which notes I sampled but can remember that I took a total of 100 samples to build the piano multisample which was 4 velocity layers so 25 samples per tone stretched across 88 keys. Also I have other multisampled which I purchased pianos, b3's and eps from walgraphix and v-night. All of them use about the same ratio of samples across the range, although I think the organ ones tended to have less samples stretched across the range. Have you tried making one yet, and how did it go?

Re: Multisampling---New To This

27 Nov 2012, 14:45

well roland only supports 4 layers so that will be the maximum using fantom's. Given the slowish loading times it wouldn't really be wise to to more anyway.

One thing I found very helpful was to build the sample patches in a pc or mac builder (like Kontakt 4) then transfer them to roland format using chickensys translator. Works like a charm. Great company.

Re: Multisampling---New To This

28 Nov 2012, 08:48

Rolandchamp, are you using the Translator™ Roland Edition or the Pro version?

Also, does it translate the samples with loop points intact?

Re: Multisampling---New To This

28 Nov 2012, 17:46

howardS wrote:
Also, does it translate the samples with loop points intact?

Yes it does indeen, as well as ADSR, modulation and several other effects.

I use the Translator Pro version, it's the best deal, IMO because it is broad spectrum of formats available.

Re: Multisampling---New To This

28 Nov 2012, 18:00

Thanks. What are you using to find your crossfade points?

Re: Multisampling---New To This

28 Nov 2012, 19:28

I haven't really needed to do too much of that. Most of what I'm doing is just bringing patches in from other formats. But I have Extreme Sample Convertor which can find decent x-fade loops in certain patches, although that one doesn't support fantoms directly you can still import/export if you have to. Actually I think it did a nice job of finding them when I used it a while back.