Fantom g8 problem

24 Apr 2012, 10:09

Hi ya,

Recently purchased the G8 and am starting to get to grips with it. I use it mainly in a live covers band, and due to this have upgraded it to 1gb ram, and added the Arx03 brass expansion, also with the new ram installed i have managed to install some of walgrphix's sounds (namely stenway and german d, country guitar, rhodes, mk1 and hammonds) as well as the non multisampled patches from the sinvibes megapack.

Took it for its first official outing last night in Birmingham for a band rehearsal. Everything was going fine until the last hour when after switching from the multisampled organ into a live set to use piano (multisampled one) and strings, it suddenly started to play up and all the live sets would have the multisampled organ on them even if it wasnt in the lives set, and switching all 8 layers off didnt affect it to. Alos of note is for the practice I had my juno G connected via midi as most of the gig stuff is still on that and havent had the time to create new ones for the G. Connected simply midi out from the g to midi in on the juno, worked straight away however when this started happening the midi ceased functioning too.

Not sure exactly what i did just before it went haywire but was simply switching between favourites, live and single.

Obviously this concerns me greatly because I cant afford for this to happen at a gig. Due to the multisamples on board the G takes a while to boot up (8 minutes approx).

Only other info I can give is that the multisamples were manually put into a project from others i.e. walgraphix and sinevibes, they mostly work perfectly bar some of the hammonds whicg sometimes fail to sound at random (probably something i did wrong as it is a complicated process) however these werent the organs I was using at the time.

I would appreciate any help or advice anyone could give me.

Ps

Reebooted this morning although not connected to the G and the problem has gone, but cant afford for it to happen when in a live situation.

Re: Fantom g8 problem

24 Apr 2012, 10:26

sounds like reboot is your only option

Re: Fantom g8 problem

24 Apr 2012, 10:31

hi ya,

thanks for the reply, but as explained earlier, rebooting just isnt an option, Dont want to think of the crowds attitude as we stop playing in the middle of a set for 8 minutes. Could it be a ram issue? Even with 1gb installed with all the multisamples it only has just over 50mb free.

Re: Fantom g8 problem

24 Apr 2012, 10:33

Well,
I don think this is going to be easy to diagnose..it may have been a random problem and may never re-occur, or it may be a RAM issue (either DIMM seating, or bit failure), or some logical or programming issue related to the location or use of the samples you loaded.

My suggestion in the first instance, to get you back to a reliable board that you can rehearse and gig with, is to replace the msam patches with stock ones... Yes, yes, i know you wont like the sound as much, but tbh, the audience doesnt care anything like as much as we do about the quality of tone.

So get yourself something you can use, then continue to diagnose that one project when you are not on stage.. So with time looking for that one problem, rather than trying to play, you may find a lot more data to help isolate the true cause.. me?.. i usually assume i have done something boneheaded :)

Re: Fantom g8 problem

24 Apr 2012, 10:48

seems random, probably is me, as i said earlier a few of the hammonds i did have some strangeness about them, and as is well documented importing msams form multiple projects into one is a nightmare. i know what you mean about the typical audiences, but it goes against my nature. Before I bought the g I gigged with a Yamaha P60 stage piano, which controlled the juno G via midi, and the piano to my ears sounded spot on, the g's just dont cut it, incidentally the Walgraphix ones although they sound fantastic when on their own, I noticed last night that when surrounded by the full band dont cut through and tend to sound quite muddy. Suppose i could carry on using the p60 as the piano but I'd have to get a new stand as I know for a fact the 2nd tier on my current stand would never take the G8's size and weight and my partner is already annoyed with me enough forbuying the G.

Re: Fantom g8 problem

24 Apr 2012, 11:02

Fo solo work the walgraphix are very good, but the warmth and character than you want for solo is not conducive to performing in a band mix so agreed there.. check out prst 13 HM Grand Drk ..i think its closest to main Juno G piano.. but like i said.. being able to get thru your set is #1 priority..:)