any chance new fantom GF will get 16 track back?

No, my friend, you have it backwards.

Creating a mess with ONE track is easy.

Creating a mess with 128 tracks is a lot of work.

Hmmm . . . A black hat and sunglasses? . . . I hate to say it Grammar but . . . some people can pull it off and others can't . . . Hey! . . . Wait a minute . . . You're not a 'people'!

sRa

Buy a JUNO-G, mate!

…some people can pull it off and others can't…

I don't understand, sRa. Pull what off? The hat? The sunglasses?

I can pull off both of them!


I'm not a "people??"

I'll repeat myself once more: What the hell is Fantom-GF? Perhaps I'm missing something?

No, cyclops, you didn't miss anything yet. I personally like GX more than GF but you are free to choose whatever combination of letters you like:)
How about GW? No wait...it can be confused with Grammar Wombat:))

There are two GW instruments in Roland's product list, GW-8 and GW-7, so...

Actually, I wouldn't give Roland ideas about new workstations. I wouldn't want them get away with all ommisions and things that need to be added to Fantom-G, so they'd rather better out the Fantom-G first, then release a new flagship workstation.

You can always just limit yourself to 16 tracks. There really is no difference, other than you would have the flexibility to add more if needed. I mean, I understand not wanting to be overwhelmed, but having more tracks is never a bad thing. I generally only use 8-12 tracks, depending on the project... but love that there is more in case I get into writing some crazy weird song that requires more.

I generally record everything in stereo, just to get a fuller sound... hence the use of more tracks. Otherwise, I would only be using 5 or 6 tracks. Again, just limit yourself. No sense in paying for a limited keyboard, especially since most newer keys use 64 tracks or more. You are just going to run into issues then with limited sounds, that you may or may not like.

If this really is your direction, you could always go with a Yamaha SY99: http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-SY-99-SY99-Keyboard-Synthesi... - http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/sy99.php or something like it. They are older, but still great workstations and perfect for what you want(16 tracks).

It would be great if you could move the 24 audio tracks further down the list.

You can. I'm not near the 'G' right now. Maybe someone else can walk you through this.

Cheers!
PiaKnowGuy
Please feel free to listen to Pirates

PiaKnow

I meant this in more general not necessary for me although I almost never use more then 10 track. I like jazz style, live recording so my band usually is 3,4 or 5 people. Not planning to hire the whole orchestra for delirium symphony.

Isn't many track recording a way of faking something you'd never be able to play live anyway?

@Bombzix, piaknowguy:

Yes, you can move any MIDI or audio track up or down the list if needed, but I'm not in front of my Fantom-G to check how it's done. It's something that was there from day one, namely OS version 1.03, so it's rather probable that the original owner's manual (hardcopy) describes the procedure.

Edit:
Go into Song Edit mode, select the track you want and then press "F7: Song Util". From the popup menu, select "Zoom/Track order". Using the dial select the new position for the track. Do the same procedure for all the MIDI or audio tracks you want to move up or down the track list.

The first 16 tracks are midi (blue) - the next 24 are audio(red) - the remaining are midi (blue). I looked in the manual and did not see anything about moving the 24 (red) audio tracks down to the last 24, which are normally midi and are blue. What you described sounds like moving an actual recorded track down the the next slot. I want 24 midi tracks then 24 audio tracks so that I don't have to make that 24 slot jump to my 18th midi track. Know what I mean?

Try doing what I suggest at the"Edit" point of my previous post...

(wow, this is post #2000, hurray!!! :-p)