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Step modulator

Step modulator

16 Jul 2010, 04:59
Hello everyone,

Im havin a question again.

This time its about the step modulator. See, I apply the stepmod on an appregio with destination: "osc1+2-PIT-Crs" and save it as a patch.
Then when i go out the patch and return to it afterwards, it sounds different. Its like the stepmod has got a slight delay of a millisecond,so therefor not synced with the arpeggiator, which results in some kinda unwanted portamento(which can sound cool sometimes tho lol..).
However, when i turn off the stepmodulator and then On again, the arpeggio sounds normal again.

This behaviour only seems to apply on the Upper Tone, the Lower tone is fine. What could this issue be? I hope its not the hardware! aaaarghhh

Grts

Re: Step modulator

17 Jul 2010, 08:22
Nobody experiences this on their v-synth? Maybe i should be more clear about it.

I initialise a patch, Lower Tone, Choose osc f.e. a saw waveform, Set the Arpeggiator On and Hold, Draw a 4bar note, then i go to the stepmodulator.
The stepmod is set on :steps, key sync: tone , destination: any parameter( i think but this glitcheffect is more prominent after changing Pitch parameters). Now i save and replay the result which sounds normal. However, If i re-open the patch it sounds different.(not perfectly syncd, which causes this glitchyness)
To fix it is to set the stepmodulator Off and back ON. Is this some bug or a common' thingy' on the v-synth gt?
Any advice would b apprectiated much.

Re: Step modulator

18 Jul 2010, 08:02
Hi DaMonkster,
In your first post you said that this problem only applies to the Upper Tone, but in your second post it seems that is happening in the Lower as well. Is that right, or did I miss something ?

Please advise.
Cheers
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Step modulator

19 Jul 2010, 09:15
Hello PauloF,

Thanks for replying again mister. :) I appreciate ur effort to help others, ur a blessing Paulo! :)
I would like to know more bout this 'bug' bfore returning it to Roland. It will be the 2nd time in 1year if i do. As being a bit dissapointed in Roland atm, this will probably be the first and last Rolandsynth i ever bought :/ For 2.400EUR i expected a bit more reliable product, that hasnt got to be fixed two times in a year. oh well...

Im sorry, i was wrong in the previous posts. This happens on both Lower- and Uppertone.
Here s an example of what i mean. First part is normal with some tweaking at the end lol , and 2nd part is the same arpeggio but gliched :(

I now know that this glitch also will be fixed when just turning the arpeggiator or the Holdbutton Off and back On.

Cheers m8

Re: Step modulator

25 Jul 2010, 07:08
Cmon synthgeeks, can u help out a newb... Ive already sent this patch to Roland but also still waiting for them to reply. *sigh*

Re: Step modulator

25 Jul 2010, 08:05
DaMonkster,
Unfortunately I don't have a GT, so I can't help you much here.
Just for the sake of curiosity, I'm trying to recriate that problem on the XT this afternoon.

I'll let you my findings (I hope I don't find anything wrong on my XT ;-) )
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Step modulator

25 Jul 2010, 11:43
I've tried to recreate the issue, but all seems pretty normal to me.
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Step modulator

27 Jul 2010, 07:37
Sorry about that, you really need an help from a GT user...

Cheers,
Paulo

C'mon guys, give DaMonkster a help simulating this, so he knows what to do next !!!
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Step modulator

13 Aug 2010, 10:29
So...i went to Roland BNLX with my V-synth and tested it there with the famous Peter S. Even Philip from Milk Inc was there and we speculated about the V and its modulation. I feel lucky to got help from the Pros :) I was very happy when Peter said that Patch sounded good..Yay to hear that from the big guys :) But anyway..
Their conclusion was almost parallell with mine. Some internal clock issue with the stepmodulator in combination with the Hold button. Seems that if i save the patch with Hold ON this portamento-type o' glitch happens. If i save it without it dont. So in the future i will save a stepmodulated patch with the Holdbutton OFF. Peter said he was going to inform Roland bout it and hopefully they will come up with an Update to fix this. Fingers crossed!!

Once again, thanks to PauloF who seems to be the only person on this site who was willing to help things out, not only for myself. U should be a moderator here Paulo or atleast u deserve a big statue on the forums :) Take care man

Peace.. OUT

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