Nylon guitar library coming to Fantom-G!

Artemiy
First of all I'd like to congratulate you for doing this jump. I believe it will open new doors for you and Sinevibes and I hope it is successfull enough to make you keep going.

My very first instrument was a classic guitar wich I started playing when I was 7. I still enjoy playing it . Although I don't consider myself a guitar player I think I do know the instrument well enough to make a small coment:

I was immediately surprised when the demo started. The guitar has a really smooth tone character that I personally love. The knocks and slide noises sound perfect but you have to place them in the right place in a future demo. It seems they were placed randomly.

I don't like the high notes. I don't know if you stretched the samples or what but, to me, they don't sound natural or as beeing from the same guitar. They sound much brighter and as if you were playing harder. I mean, the balance between highs and lows notes is not right.

I would encorage you on getting a MIDIed guitar and ask a guitar player to actually PLAY and record a demo with the samples. They are worth it and I know it's really dificult for a keyboard player to simulate all the nuances of the guitar playing. This needs a more "realistic" demo.

In the end, It sounds as an excelent alternative for the stocked nylon guitar samples of the G. Just need some more perfectioning. I'm looking forward to hear the updates. I will be wanting this one.

V-CeeOh, this is our first joint project with a Belgian sound engineer (who is also a Roland sound designer). It's all his work, which took quite a lot of time on expensive equipment, and we are shaping it up together into a Sinevibes product. Hopefully, more will come from both of us in the future!

Anyway, as for your feedback - each guitar live or patch set consists of multiple recorded layers and you'll be able to adjust them to get the balance you prefer. So if you find highs unnatural (for me they're okay), you will be able to bring them down.

It's good that new types of sounds are to be released for the Fantom-G. At the same time though, I can't help connecting it with Roland's unwillingness to release new free sounds, given the Fantom-G's inadequate soundset in specific types of sounds. Now it's quite clear. New sounds for the Fantom-G have to be paid, not given out for free. And comparisons with other manufacturers are more obvious than ever. Sounds fair but it's not for me.

cyclops, Sinevibes as a brand has no relation to Roland and it's activities at all. We only make sounds for their instruments and that's it. You sound like we have a secret agreement with them...

I'm not implying anything, but the facts speak for themselves: Almost every major manufacturer offers free sounds for their flagship instruments. One of the few exceptions is Roland.

I don't want to believe in conspiracy stories, I never liked to. I'm just pointing out the facts, nothing more, nothing less.

This is not the right topic to discuss this anyway...

Yamaha was selling sounds for years and years on their web site before ever giving away free ones. End of story... They still sell them.
http://shop.motifator.com/index.php/voice-libraries/mot...

Thanks Art for working on ways to improve the G.

The sample of a nylon guitar has listened. Not clearly on what it has been played on midi a guitar or keys. And nevertheless on high notes it is audible artificiality!

I liked the sound of this guitar - it is better than the Super Articulated voice of Yamaha. I look forward to when I can get the voices.
Regards

Nice effort Artemiy! I do concur with others though that in the upper registers it sounds a little unrealistic almost as if "steel" strings were used on the higher end. Nonetheless, in the lower registers it is very exquisite indeed and MUCH MUCH better than what is offered on the Fantom G itself. And like you said, perhaps adjusting the EQ will allow a lessening of the 'steel' string effect in the upper registers too. The samples themselves, as you said, are from a 'real' Spanish guitar played with 'nylon' strings so I'm thinking the 'steel' string effect (at least to my ears anyways) must be in the way the samples were recorded then. How else can it be explained?? Still, even if the final outcome is similar to what we hear today i.e. a little unnatural in the upper end, it is still a must have in my opinion and I will almost assuredly, and even gladly, fork over the necessary dough to get it/them. Brilliant!

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!! - continue on in your effort(s) to delve into the "acoustic" sounds arena Artemiy! This first effort in collaboration with your Belgian partner is much appreciated and highly sought after by keyboardists who's main emphasis is on "bread & butter" sounds i.e. "acoustic" sounds and the more the merrier my friend.

That being said... perhaps you and your business partner could perhaps also think about doing "electric" and even "distortion" guitar emulations in a 'one' package offering?? Yes, I do have Guitar Rig 4 PRO, but being able to have better electric and distortion guitars on the Fantom G itself without requiring firing up a Laptop, etc. to use in conjunction with my Guitar Rig PRO would be great too. Thanks for your consideration and hopefully that could be a possibility as well.

News Flash! This recording is a crude attempt to provide an example of one of the preset Fantom G "distortion" guitars and it is rather hard on the ears to which I sincerely apologize. This is in .mp3 format and loses some of the quality vs. the .wav version, which I do have, but was too large to directly link. BTW, what is the correct FTP server address to upload files to the Roland Clan storage area Art? My current online storage only allows direct linking up to 5MB. Anyway, I'm sure your collaboration (if you choose to do one) will be head and shoulders better by comparison, even though some of the FG preset electric and distortion guitars are not too shabby by themselves really. Here you go... and guard you ears!

Fantom G Distortion Guitar w/Drum Kit added for rhythm effect

Thanks again!! Looking forward to your Nylon Guitar(s) final product release in two weeks or so Art!

Guys, thanks for your positive response once again! I would like to also repeat that each guitar sound is created by combination of several layers (there are 25 multisamples in there), and you can create a brighter or darker sound, or a sound with a different character this way. You will know more details when we post the final user manual.

Anyway, seeing how this anticipated we might push on it The thing is the library is actually ready, we're just polishing it a bit, and have to create the user manual with guitar modeling instructions. All that should be done in the first week of August.

keysme:

Click the "create attachment" link below the message field to upload a file (up to 50 MB).

art- very cool, august is going to be an exciting month for the FG!

Remember, the lower strings are steel on a Classical Guitar. [edit]

Sometimes they are played on higher notes as well... [edit]

This song seems to give a good variety of the nylon and metal string sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9jrBg4Lwc

Again, I trust Art saying the patches are ajustable as well...

Very exciting news Art!

Sinevibes makes the most high quality and creative sounds I have heard. They don’t just sound awesome and have great response but a quality design as well. So hearing that they are going into the acoustic instrument arena is cause for celebration! Well....so long as you don’t sale acoustic instrument samples I suppose (be afraid).

Awesome Art, I look forward to it and wish you all the best in this new market !

Zephyer.

Artemiy! What Zephyer posted +1!! I hold you in the highest esteem, my friend, and am thrilled that Sinevibes is offering this in addition to all of the other amazing SineVibe sound collections! I love the patches and use them often! Keep 'em comin'! =)

All the best!
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