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HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

24 Jun 2010, 23:38
Today I started a new song, but was amazed to see that some of the phrases I started with had number from 1630 and up, although I have only used about five phrases altogether so far in the song.

What does this imply?

Does it mean that I now only have 370 phrases left to use...as there is a limit of 2000 phrases in a project, or will the counter start all over again as soon as I reach phrase number 2000? So I still can use up to 2000 phrases in the song?

I worry a lot now, because in this song I will sure use more than 500 phrases ...and I dont know how to move phrases between projects.
So I need to have at least 1000 phrases at hand to feel at ease.

I have deleted all the samples and phrases and other stuff that came with the last 1.50 update, so I dont know why this mess with the phrases now...

Should I go back to the 1.31 update before I continue?

I dont want to waste a lot of work, getting stranded after having recorded 370 phrases...and not being able to record anymore...

Re: HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

24 Jun 2010, 23:39
I checked the phrase numbers, and they had names like ice cream beat and radio groove and so on...but I have deleted all the beats and stuff that came with the 1.50 update...so why are the phrase list full of this crap still???

Re: HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

25 Jun 2010, 04:59
Are you aware that you can delete the preset phrases one by one in the "Delete Phrase" function in the Util Menu. You can also use a "Create Project" in the Menu to clear all the phrases from memory, though that will also delete all the Studio Sets, Live Sets and extra voices from the updates but they can all be retrieved again with a Factory Reset.

Sexigenarian

Re: HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

25 Jun 2010, 07:14
really...are u sure about the OS updates..that these new studio sets etc will be erased?!
And the new patches too?

Re: HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

25 Jun 2010, 07:38
yeah..it worked!

i went to the phrase list and deleted some phrases, starting with number eleven, as I had used ten phrases ...and when I recorded a new phrase, it got the number 11.

So that was good!

But is there a way of deleting many phrases at once...or erase all the phrases in one operation, except the ones one wants to keep?

Re: HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

25 Jun 2010, 17:56
not that I know of. I spent some time deleting a whole lot of phrase last night. If you happen to see this word (phrase destination error ) while recording....It means you maxed out your phrase list. Only allows 2000 phase I think, so you have to delete things you don't need.
I'm not sure the update or factory reset will erase all those phrases. Most of the beats and the motion thing are used in phrase if I'm not mistaken. Plus those demo songs uses phrase too.
So, I guess this could be part of the next update to be able to mark phrases so we can delete a whole lot of them at once.
For now, I guess we have to delete it one by one...yep! take time but be patient cause its still better than nothing.

Re: HELP! Confused about phrase numbers.

26 Jun 2010, 06:43
To delete the phrases is quite easy.
Save the project on your USB stick. Insert stick into computer and go into SEQ/PHS folder.
Delete them all or if you only want to delete certain ones make a note of which ones you want to keep on the Fantom first.

Also you might want to go into the SMPL (sample) folder and delete all the samples associated with the demo songs that are doing nothing but slowing down load time.
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