so when juno-g will get new keybed?

totally.
THE WORST KEYBOARD (AS IN KEYES) EVER PLAYED IN MY LIFE...
and i have been round the block a few times.
the dx7 feels like a steinway
roland SHAME ON YOU FOR LURING PEOPLE INTO A SUBSTANDARD KEY BED YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER YOUR REPUTATION HAS GONE DOWN BIG TIME

>>>roland SHAME ON YOU FOR LURING PEOPLE INTO A SUBSTANDARD KEY BED YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER YOUR REPUTATION HAS GONE DOWN BIG TIME

exactly, especially in such great overall machine like juno-g.

If you take the bait first off without knowing what it is or what it's like, then you are caught on the hook. All semi-weighted synth keyboards, are very much a like. Try before you buy. That's what I did. Also, 88 weighted key action synth W/S ` you can't go wrong. That's really the only option, unless you go and buy an acoustic piano.

the dx7 feels like a steinway

You have never played a Steinway have you? Maybe you have never played the DX7
Well, yes, the Juno-G doesn't have the same keyboard of the Fantoms...neither it has the same price. I guess it's rather late to do something about it now.

you can get Juno stage it has much better keybed.

>>>All semi-weighted synth keyboards, are very much a like.

I don't think so - semi weighted doesn't mean crappy by definition.
Try fantom keybed or motif XS keybed etc - excellent feel and touch,
pleasure to play on. Not the case with junos. I know, the problem is the price
but because of such poor keybed I was unable to keep juno-g. Why I'd need to buy 1k$ more expensive board to have only better keybed? Roland has no median - either something is very cheap or very expensive...
They did juno stage with better keybed but I'd like juno-g with better keybed.

Well, I won't under estimate what you say, because I have the JP 8000 synth and its platform is excellent. Wide plastic keys and comfortable touch response action for Legato and staccato. I know what you mean with the Juno - G, but what can you do. I guess it's practice and getting use too, IMO.

@V-CeeOh: yet what he says is true... I also have had a good number of boards (Roland D-50, Alpha Juno and Juno-G, Korg Poly-61 and X5D, Clavia Nord Electro and Nord Stage, EMU PK-6...) and the Juno-G is by far the worst one if we talk about the keybed, even when compared to the X5D which was a budget keyboard at the time. Now, I understand that the Juno-G is an entry-level instrument, but the reason why you buy a Roland/Korg/Yamaha instead of an unknown chinese brand is because you expect a minimum level of quality, which IMHO is not met, in some aspects, in the Juno-G... which is, for many reasons, a great board, but with some flaws that you don't expect from a quality brand like Roland. What the OP says, alas, is true: the Juno-G keybed is substandard. Wether it is acceptable or not for you it's a matter of taste and expectations.
And I don't want to talk about reliability... that's another problem... because IMO the whole build quality of the Juno-G is substandard.
Otherwise, it's a great board with great sound, great interface, great functions... if only its construction could match the expectactions...

I don't as much mind the G's keyboard honestly. I have had it well over a year now and it hasn't acted up. Now the keyboard on the D is horrible!!! I have taken mine apart already once to clean it because keys stop working or lose their velocity sensitivity. Really annoying!

I thought the X6 and Juno-G had the same keybed, except the Juno keys are smaller?

The problem with this discussion is that you can't viably compare the Juno-G to the Fantom or the Nords. They are twice as much money. Does a quality keybed cost $1k? Yes, somewhere in the ballpark. Look at the RD700 or V-Piano; you certainly have to pay for those.

This Steinway comparison is just laughable. I'd love to see who ever said that play even a chord on 'any' concert grand piano, let alone pull off a run or arpeggio. I'm rather certain a complete piece would be out of the question.

If you must compare, there is only the Korg M50 and Yamaha M06.

The bottom line is that the Juno-G keyboard is still solid, after countless hours I've put on it.

>>>I thought the X6 and Juno-G had the same keybed, except the Juno keys are smaller?

what??? hell no. not even close.

BTW making great keybord with crappy keybed is counterproductive - to use it you have to use keybed willy-nilly so what's the point roland??? oh, I know the point is to buy another more expensive keyboard...

anyway I bought juno-g twice and returned twice because of the keybed.
It's really great keyboard and I miss it.

That makes a strong case for searching out a used X. I haven't had a chance to actually play one, but am pretty sure I remember someone saying they're the same or rather similar.

Did you buy an X instead?

I do agree, to a point, my last board had wonderful and responsive, full-size keys. However, it's been a few years since I had it so it's mostly a pleasant memory now. I still think the Juno is by no means, unplayable, after your fingers get used to the slippery little black keys. I find the keys tight enough(compared to the D) and responsive enough for my performance.

As for counterproductive, yes maybe in your case you need more, but for Roland it makes clear sense, to offer the Juno-G with an upgraded keyboard they'd be pushing the price point right near the Fantom. The Juno kit, while nearly as powerful, isn't aimed at that market - it's a Juno - obviously a sub $1000 Fantom would be excellent, but there has to be compromise somewhere.

Three times a charm?

That really nice Fantom keybed adds to the weight of the keyboard in total. One of he main reasons I am so happy with the G is its weight. Fantoms are heavy!! I love the sound of my Farfisa VIP600 but no way I would bring it to a gig! lol...

>>>That makes a strong case for searching out a used X

that's good idea and I've already considered it but I like the new boards, can I have still brand new fantom X ???