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Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 04:07
I'm looking into getting a Fantom X6, and I would like to be able to record/mix/master all in the Fantom, then re-sample and send the finished .wav to my laptop for CD burning to avoid using an audio interface/DAW.

My question is, I used to have the Xa model and when attempting to do this process, the transferred .WAV file was always noticeably lower in volume once on the laptop, and no matter how much I tried normalizing and various volume boosting programs, it never went above a medium volume level, which didn't work for me ( I need it loud). The level on the board was loud, just not after transferring.

So, is that the same on all Fantom X models including the X6, or was it just the Xa?

If someone knows the answer, please reply as soon as possible, as I'm hoping to buy one in the next few days and this could be a major reason not to.

Thanks

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 06:43
This will be the same on all Fantom-S and Fantom-X models, however, this has to do with the fact that they allow to play the sample louder than it actually is. On your computer, you can apply a loudness maximizer or limiter with a 5-6 dB gain and this will add loudness without much changes in quality and dynamics.

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 08:34
Let me add to what Art was saying ( which is all true). I don't want to sabotage your purchase decision but there is not a single keyboard on the planet (with exception to the open labs products {and possibly the discontinued Korg Oasys}, they are literally a computer that can run a DAW internally {downside is that it only runs VSTI's} ) that will produce anything more than a mediocre finished product. This is due to the required processing power needed to make a finished professional product.
When I run my DAW, In most cases I have at least one effect per track running ( more often 3 or 4). The Fantom G is closer to the goalpost in this respect with its per track effects but still can't hope to get anywhere near equal to the power of a DAW.

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 10:03
Thanks for your input. One of the reasons I'm against recording directly into an interface/DAW is that I'm on kind of a small budget and could probably spend no more than $100-$150 on an audio interface.

My thinking is that why cheapen the sound of a thousand dollar synth by recording it into a hundred dollar interface/soundcard?

I thought it would sound better to preserve the same quality sound of the Fantom how it is. Do you think even a cheap interface/soundcard would sound better than my original idea?

Thanks

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 10:21
Does the Fantom X itself have an audio interface like the sp606 where I can just record dircetly into my laptop via USB?

Artemiy -

If I try what you suggested will it clip, or because it was reduced it can be pushed pass the red just to get back to normal?

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 14:18
pretty sure the Fantom G does audio over USB but not the X. the X will do MIDI over USB but no audio ( someone correct me if I am wrong please lol).

I use a M-audio Delta 44......its old but it works great ..........you can get them new for $150
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/M-Audio-De...

You might even be able to find them cheaper on ebay or craigslist.
There are also a few good USB solutions as well and the prices vary from one to another but average around $200.

Heres a small rough of an Intro I made for my band on our new album..the drums suck intentionally and the quality is lower than normal since its publicly accessible..... but you will hear the DAW quality none the less......be sure you download it as opposed to streaming it since that also kills the quality of the file lol!
http://www.4shared.com/file/247202999/fbf0e900/frantics...

My fantom X could never have produced anything close to what you hear in this file by itself. On top of that this is a mp3 file and not my usual wav or aiff that I use for lossless audio.

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 16:15
Cool track, are those live guitars or fantom patches? They sound live anyways. Nice mix of different sounds.

I'm looking into a Lexicon Alpha interface on ebay. They go for about $70 used w/ Cubase LE. I actually had one of these once and forgot about it. I could never get it to work with my old dinosaur laptop, then I finally got it working, but needed the money so I returned it.

It just occurred to me that with my new laptop I shouldn't have any problems recording into it. I had so many problems with my old one I vowed to never record in software again, but with this one everythings up to date with todays tech. so I should be good.

Now, I think I might go with a dif set up. I'm looking at maybe a used MPC, a rack module/controller, the Alpha, and then I might have enough left for a decent guitar.

Do you have any suggestions for a good used electric guitar for around $200-$300?

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 20:28
Thanks for the props..... The guitars on the track are all keyboard. The lead guitar is from the fantom (modified) Rockin Delay patch.......the feedback and rhythm guitar was off my Yamaha EX5.

I can only make recommendations for stuff I have used..... never used the one you referred to but the one thing I have learned is to not skimp on your interface. Depending on what you are recording your needs may vary but $79 new, while sounding like a good deal makes me question the quality. I would spend a little bit extra on your interface so you dont end up with something that kills your sound...
I have used M-audio Delta 44, MOTU UltraLite-mk3 (really awesome), hmmm just found a smokin deal on ebay on a focusrite saphire pro 24 DSP..it runs on a Firewire port...so as long as your laptop has one ..heres the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Focusrite-Saffire-Pro-24-DSP-Mac-or...

As far as guitars go in that price range I would say maybe a Jackson Dinky. Guitars really are not my thing so you may want to take that with a grain of salt lol!!!! If anyone else knows more please feel free to add lol!!!

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

16 Apr 2010, 22:29
IMO the DAW is the way to go. It's not, however, cheap or easy whichever way you decide.

As for a guitar, I'd honestly suggest a used $100 Ibanez to start with. I'm guessing you are a beginner and spending any more than that is somewhat of a waste until you developed your tone.

Re: Burning CD's via USB .wav File Transfer

17 Apr 2010, 02:51
If you ever work with a Mac App / audio interface isn't necessary; unless (example) you want to record a bunch of hardware synths working all together, at the same time. PC on the other hand would be a beneficial idea to utilize Audio Interface, because of latencies.

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