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NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

26 Mar 2010, 17:31
Oh the excitement!

Our team has taken the field. And the new FG Connects Live project is getting ready to devastate any sound expansion foolish enough to call itself a competitor. He’s motivated, confident and soon his opponents will understand that until now fear was only a word they used to describe feelings. Our star is not only driven by his own will to win. But by the hope and passion of his fans. They boast about how the new guy is going to crush their rivals. They mock the opposing teams, taunting them with the fact that they have no chance at victory!

Soon….the games will begin….and our opponents will witness true fear as they face what can only be described as…THE BEAST!

Soon to be crushed and defeated once again by the overwhelming incomparable force known as Fantom power. Our rivals plot their comeback but it’s futile…The beast can’t be stopped……

Bring the fire Roland!!! Bring…The…. FIRE!!!!


Zephyer

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

27 Mar 2010, 14:00
beginning to think that the Mipa awards are manly for sales.....no way Yamaha CP1 beat out V-Piano....aahhh I see, Its not only piano but E-piano

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

27 Mar 2010, 17:29
Yamaha?

Cowards….sneaking in here and spreading their lies and confusion. Was it fun?….Did you enjoy yourself? Tiptoeing around picking up any scraps you could find, disgusting.

But hey…I guess if you can’t make the best gear, spreading lies to win a trophy is one way to feel good about yourself. Pathetic…But I guess I shouldn’t be too hard on you guys…after all…the cp1 does make a great addition to our trophy collection. Seriously though…make something that’s not so easy to kill next time. All that crying and begging, it’s sickening.

You got sloppy……One step too many and too far into the den of the beast. And now it’s too late to make it out alive. We can smell your fear…cry, scream and beg for mercy but none will be given, for beast have none, only instinct to devour prey and turn it into a substance only grass would crave. To bad you’re just a snack…I guess we can devour the korg we killed the other day as well.

I hope you had fun watching…unfortunately…as usual…tearing you to shreds won’t be as entertaining. :-)

Zephyer

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

27 Mar 2010, 17:56
i still think nord's yamaha piano samples sounds better than wat yamaha can ever do with their CP1... but that's just me. :p

and comparing ordinary sample playback machines with some fused variations in the sample layers with the VPiano is pretty stupid. VPiano you can tune each and every key individually for all the various parameters like a real piano. CP1 you can't do anything close to it from wat ive read. and the nord piano just simply sounds better than the CP1.

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

28 Mar 2010, 03:36
Wow……interesting….So many possibilities…what to do…what…to do?? ;-)

First...I have to tell you that it was kind of strange posting about the Yamaha cp1, given that this thread is largely (fully really) about Roland’s SH-01, Lucina AX-09 and FG Connects Live. Also, this is a Roland forum…your post was strange…but, the title does leave room for it. And the way your post was worded could make you look like a Yamaha rep. But, only if you responded to my post defensively (it seem you did). However, you could also be just a fan of the cp1 or maybe just upset because you felt my post was directed at you (it was not, just used it as a reason to get at Yamaha).

Second…The V-Piano won it’s awards when it was introduced (Best at Namm, Keyboard Keybuy Award, etc). So it’s most likely that the cp1 just picked up the sympathy award at the lesser of the two shows the following year.

Third…it’s not a good idea to respond to a post like my last one unless you are a Yamaha rep. Given your response, I could very easily make you look like one even if you are not. And I don’t recommend responding to a post like mine with…“couldn't understand your post.” Given the nature of my last post, it just gives me way to many options to insult your intelligence (just advice, I’m not trying to).

And finally en76...I have read your posts on this forum…and I have no intentions of attacking you or any fellow Clan Member/Roland customer. This new FG Connects Live project is something a number of members have been waiting for. Also, for a good number of reasons, It’s important that customers make a lot of noise about the project if they want it. And it’s more important that they make an insane amount of noise if they like it (you can’t make enough noise). So I’m just showing our team a little support…

No harm done I hope.... Sorry if I offend you, I did not mean to.

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

28 Mar 2010, 03:57
I played the CP1 at the Musikmesse.
The V-Piano was much more impressive for me. But thats often a matter of taste.

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

28 Mar 2010, 06:41
Fismoll- actually A LOT of piano players that have tried the CP1 say the same. The CP1 is just another digital piano from yamaha.

And I too think yamaha got a sympathy award since yamaha is a big contributor to the music industry. politically correct to throw them a bone or two.

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

28 Mar 2010, 09:59
Well, I guess you misunderstood my post...I am a total fan of Roland....If you look @ the awards since last year, it just seems to me its all about boosting sales to companies. Its like controlling market. With the same category, how can that be when one clearly beats one and yet the next it beats out the same winner which I didn't see any significant change but which I may say the V-piano do had a upgrade...So, you take a look for yourself on the trend of awards and its product.
Besides, with all those nice DSP for the Yamaha, I'm not sure if that will really make a difference for live situation with all the other instruments playing which I may say "maybe this how they might of based their decision on (SOLO instrument)
So, just to even clarify it, That's why I couldn't believe they gave to YCP1 which leads me to believe its all about boosting sale like sharing the pie -so to speak. Kenchan got it right.
Now, V-piano its just clearly to me, a total winner which in this case (my own opinion) cause not that its sounds good all around and plus innovative but yet can cut through mix any given situation.

Now, not to dis The YCP1, its a great addition like you said Zephyer. I can see how it will be a great additional and for certain situation since it has E-piano in it which kind of make sense for certain things.
So, in a world of compact and affordability, it does influence $$$$. oops time to get ready for CHURCH.

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

28 Mar 2010, 16:43
Hey en76!

Hmmmm…the way you word things??…One could think….LOL (Just joking).

Just to correct one thing.…When I said the Yamaha cp1 would make a great addition. I was describing it as a trophy hanging dead and lifeless in the den of Roland’s merciless BEASTS! You know…like when you kill a deer and hang it’s head on your wall. It has no other use but to remind us of the day we slaughtered our prey.

Now…to everyone..

I don’t want to take this thread to far off track. But I’ll give my perspective on the trophy matter. The point about it being a sympathy award is part of the equation. But there is a greater element involved. Hype….hype can be one of the strongest factors involved in helping a person or group win an award or competition, even if they don‘t deserve it. Hype can make a newbie into a legend (American idols William Hung? ), an armature into a Pro or a complete loser into a winner.

Think about it….How many times have you listened to the “newest, freshest mega star" and thought to yourself…(there is no way this guy deservers that title).

And what’s more? A judge or critic will rarely go against popular opinion because if they do they lose their own popularity. So….even if the Yamaha cp1 is vastly inferior to Roland’s V-Piano it can still take the win (the trophy) if it has the hype. Yamaha has had hyped gear for quite sometime now. Why? Because Yamaha fans hype their teams products like crazy. Roland on the other hand has been both blessed and cursed with customers that are generally a lot more logical when it comes to buying and rating gear. ;-). We do have the most informative and knowledgeable forum after all (isn’t that what we always hear). We are just the kind of people who would be attracted to a G or V-Synth (please keep producing future V-Synths Roland). And the kind of people that understand why comparing a sample based Yamaha cp1 infused with a few piano simulation tricks. To a full-fledged mathematically precise 100% modeled Piano like Roland’s V- Piano is completely ridiculous, they should not even be in the same category. But hey…that’s Yamaha for you, always taking shortcuts.

Anyway…I never follow the hype. I compare gear and go with the BEAST…I mean… the best. :-)

Re: NEW PRODUCTS!!!! OUT NOW

29 Mar 2010, 01:17
My bad LOL! I see...got it. thanks.

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