Broken Play Button

Hi madAhorn,

I'm afraid you won't be able to fix it unless you buy a new button. To get an image how the PLAY button looks inside look at my post:

http://forums.rolandclan.info/index.php?action=show_thr...

Unfortunately this is a view from the other side than you need. I guess there is a broken route between the button itself and the plastic chassis around. No bond can fix it.
I experinced the same problem on my good old JV-1000 and I had to buy new buttons from Roland.
Good luck.
karel

Thanks. :'-(

you can borrow my axiom-25. jk

its a very useful tool.

my stop button has gone the same way... wobbles to the left hand side and sometimes get stuck. i have to say roland make there stuff very durable. however it appears that these buttons are of a crap design and intrinsically weak. roland uk have them in stock which i think tells a story in itself.... only 97 pence each but it looks like an endurance test to take apart and rectify.................

Mine too but like you said- if you carefully press the button, it works. Its been like this since last year and I'm used to it. So to all, yeah!!! don't tap too hard.

play button has gone the same way as the stop button. the record button should be on its way out soon so i will have the full set that has collapsed on the left hand side. taking the keyboard apart to replace theses buttons is a big task and replacing them with the same buttons will mean 18 months down the line i will back to square one again.... sticking bits of rubber and using bits of coated paper to help alleviate the problem is not a particularly good solution on an expensive workstation. roland have been using buttons since there inception. i find it hard to believe that these got through there quality control.......

The orange buttons are just as crappy, they don't work all that well from the get go.

Again a result of trolls pushing manufacturers to rush products out the door with low prices, inferior products.

I use a mac for sequencing so no issues for me. :p

Same problems with stop button here too, unfortunately.

Jesse, so you just can't stop? Why is it a bad thing? ))

my son's mute button is also broken.... he talks waaaay too much. *kenchan shakes head*

well i have found a personal solution to the broken stop and play button problem ( see photo ) the foot pedal was purchased of ebay for about £10 pounds. i replaced the spring with a much more softer and compliant spring
( the difficult part is in finding a suitable spring ). it works superb. better than the separate original buttons. i have placed a plastic cover over the fantoms stop play buttons to get me out of the habit of using them. within a week the habit has gone with this faster easier solution. if you go down this route just program the appropriate foot controller command in the system menu. i know allot of people use other sequencer packages but i find the gs sequencer has excellent timing and does all i need. allot of pc sequencers are sloppy in this regard.

That's the craziest solution I've ever seen. I love it!

hahahaha i know lol. works great though 8)

That foot pedal solution is a riot! Well done!

I see a lot of FG owners are having problems with buttons not working or barely working or things rattling around and causing havoc in the process, needless to say. This is my guess. I'm thinking since Roland was in a terrible rush to get the Fantom G to market way back in May '08 (to meet a deadline) that it apparently caused major "quality control" issues at the Roland Japan factory where they were assembled. We have to remember that the FG was basically shipped with a "half-baked" 'OS' and now it appears it may have also been shipped with "half-baked" hardware assemblage as well. I hate to say it, but it looks like Roland "dropped the ball" big time concerning the FG in more ways than one and Roland has had to play catch-up ever since. As far as the hardware malfunctions are concerned there's been some innovative measures put in place by Roland FG owners themselves and that seems to have corrected some of the anomalies but unfortunately when a button will no longer function correctly at all you'll have to take it in and in some cases 'pay through the nose' to get it fixed. Which is unfortunate indeed since it appears that the Fantom X was constructed on a much more solid and consistent basis it seems. Pity...

All we can hope for is that these anomalies are few and far between but this thread alone proves that that assessment may in fact NOT be the case. So far my buttons are all working properly and no real rattles to speak of. My beef with my FG7 is the LCD screen which when I tipped my FG over to put in my RAM something got lodged in the LCD screen that appears to be lint or possibly a metal shaving. Others have complained about the same occurrence happening to their FG's. Mine's not too noticeable since it's near the top and you don't really notice it unless you're really searching for it. But still, I've NEVER owned any other keyboard where metal shavings or lint gets stuck on the underside of the LCD screen. And these anomalies may indeed come back to haunt Roland. If you think otherwise, you might want to turn your attention to the horrendous fallout that Toyota Motors Corporation is receiving and have had to endure with their vehicle acceleration problems. It is said that Toyota Motor Corporation will "lose" an estimated $3,000,000,000 billion dollars on lost sales alone and probably billions of dollars more on several pending class-action "lawsuits" that could devastate Toyota's bottom line for years to come. I know I won't even consider buying a Toyota until they get to the bottom of their vehicle acceleration problem(s) and provide a 100% verifiable solution - even if they're offering great incentives like 0% financing for 5 years (60 months), etc. But I digress...

I hope that Roland will learn their lesson(s) and the next Roland workstation will be "built like a tank" and won't ship as a "half-baked" product like the Fantom G was. Don't get me wrong though. There are plenty of good things about the Fantom G and it is truly a feature packed workstation keyboard that gets better as time goes by as far as OS improvements are concerned (and the doubling RAM hardware implementation), etc. Like I said, mine is holding up pretty well 'hardware wise' and I'm hoping for many more years of fulfillment to come from my Fantom G7. But when the "next" workstation from Roland comes out in two or three years and it is discovered that it is indeed "built like an M1A2 Abrams tank" and Roland gushes lavishly upon it with feature rich delicacies fit for a King and with a comprehensive OS "fully baked" from 'day one' that will put the other workstations on the market to shame and derision, then most assuredly I'm gonna "trade up".

I like the Fantom G... but the controversy surrounding it has been a "black eye" for Roland in my opinion. But if Roland has indeed learned their lesson(s) the next time around I would have NO problem shelling out multiple "thousands" of dollars on a Fantom G successor. If they haven't learned their lesson(s) I'll probably just keep my G7 until it croaks (no, not when pushing any of the buttons ) OR sell it or trade it in for something else that will indeed stand the test of time and will be "fully baked" from 'day one'. Hopefully that will be the next Roland flagship workstation to come to market though, I might add.

I really like Roland products and would like to see them continue to succeed in the market place and give them my business if possible. And furthermore, what would Artemiy do without my occasional "objective" opinion(s) about Roland's flagship workstations jabbing him in the ribs every now and then eh? lol Although, Artemiy has actually been known to throw a few barbs Roland's way too so I don't feel too bad.