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HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

29 Jan 2010, 15:18
Hi All, I haven't posted in a while, but that's only because I have been away from my studio for a while. But I have two a problems here that are driving me absolutely nuts and I am hoping someone can help me.

PROBLEM #1.

I have a FG8 and I am using it with a ProTools rig. I have the Fantom set up to send & receive midi and audio via USB cable. I have recently updated to Fantom OS 1.30. I have used this successfully in the past but now for some reason I either am having a brain freeze or something is very wrong with OS 1.30.

I simply want to use the FG as a controller and a multi-timbral sound source in Studio mode to sequence midi into ProTools and eventually record that midi to audio. I believe I have things set up correctly. I have created a studio set in the FG8 with the sounds I want to use*. Only thing is I CANNOT for the life of me get this setup to correctly play the various FG parts when I set the correcponding thru channels in a ProTools instrument track.

On the FG, I have LOCAL OFF (disconnecting the keys from the sound source so the computer can control the thru), USB Midi Thru OFF (tried it on too) and it is just not happening. I have toyed with a pile of settings on both the Fantom and in ProTools and I just cannot get this working and this is going on Day 3 now.

PROBLEM #2:

I began to creatre a simple studio set with the sound I want and AS SOON as I go to save that set it spits out the patch assignment I had in part 1.

WTF!???

It is a factory string patch I want in part 1. I tried creating a NEW studio set and I simply altered an existing studio set and each time when I assign that string patch (or any patch) to part 1 and the SAVE Studio set, it deletes the patch I had in part one. completely empties it.

Is this a known bug, I would assume not since this is a most basic feature, the ability to simply save a studio set with patch assignementsin parts 1, 2, 3 etc.

Been in the biz professionally for 25 years, so I am not a newbie by any means, but this crap sure makes me feel like one!

I would GREATLY appreciate any advice or direction you folks can provide. I think I've tried everything.

In addition to resonding to the list, also feel free to also respond privately as I need a solution as soon as possible

THANKS!

Darryl Duncan
www.gamebeatstudios.com
(708) 283-8860

Re: HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

29 Jan 2010, 15:55
PROBLEM #2:
I don't have any problem like that with my FG7.
Are you sure you press also the select patch (not only dialling the patch in patch list) before saving the studio set?

Re: HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

29 Jan 2010, 16:17
Yes, absolutely, chose "select" and it goes back to the studio set and I quickly see the patch completely disappear. bizzare. I am about to reinstall OS 1.30 and see if that helps any, but I am not optimistic. thanks.

Re: HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

29 Jan 2010, 17:10
Do you have any phrases recorded in a song?

If you do, Edit the Phrase and go into Microscope mode... do you see any system exclusive events that might be changing the patch automatically?

Although if this was the case then the patch would only disappear when you Play the song. Or if you have it looping and change the patch, when it hits the beginning of the bar it would change again.

That's the only thing I can think of, never had any problem saving a Studio Set.

- Rick

Rick

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Re: HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

29 Jan 2010, 17:49
Does this only happen on part 1 or when you try a different part also..? If it's just part 1 I'm wodering if it's one of the system settings you have changed for channel 1...

A factory reset and everything else unplugged when you try would definately help limit the problem sovling.
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Re: HELP!!! Going Crazy Here...

29 Jan 2010, 19:37
BOTH issues resolved...

Thanks guys for all the advice, I did figure it out but I narrowed it down to one of about 5 parameters in the system settings. I didn't have time to troubleshoot each one individually due to a project deadline, but one of the following parameters was the problem. System settings > MIDI page, in the lower half all of those settings default to ON after a full system reset, they are.

- Remote Keyboard Switch
- Receive Program Change
- Receive Bank Select
- Receive Exclusive
- Receive GM1 System on
- Receive GM2 system on
- Receive GS reset

Not suyre what a couple of these are, but I turned ALL of these to OFF and I was able to save Studio Setups without the patches emptying from the set. Was very strange and since these default to ON after a reset, I don't understand why others have not reported this problem. But with each of these off, it works fine.

When I have more time, I plan to go in one by one and set each of these to on to see exactly which one might have been the problem.

Thanks for the help.

Regarding the OTHER issues I reported. This turned out to be the "MIDI TX Switch" needing to be set on. This was weird because I found this by accident when I was looking at the PAD MODES and saw "midi tx swith" as one of the pad modes and I switched it on for Channel 1 and it all worked. Stange thing is I cannot find this "midi tx switch" elsewhere, but only in the pad mode. I must be overlooking it because I am sure all of the setting available to be changed in PAD mode can also be changed elsewhere, but I just could not find that one.

Thanks again all, the stress level has been reduced......for now!

Darryl Duncan
www.gamebeatstudios.com

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