My opinion on the Juno-G
27 Sep 2009, 03:50WARNING!
THIS POST CONTAINS UNTRUE AND FALSE INFORMATION AND A HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE OPINION
AND HMMM... WHY HAVEN'T I DELETED IT YET? :-/
- Administrator
This is for everyone considering buying the JunoG as an economy alternative to the Fantom, or as a competitor to similarly-spec'd board.
DO NOT BUY IT unless you only need to use the sounds (very good soundset) and little else.
The Juno G cannot do the following things, all sequencer-related, which would have marked it as a proper "workstation" (it is not, actually):
-THERE IS NO SONG CHAIN OR SONG CUE LIST AVAILABLE. You cannot have a list of songs that will play seamlessly (mixing one into another). I've read manual cover to cover and I searched every corner of this appalling OS, to no avail. I am no newbie, trust me: if I haven't found it, means no one will in any reasonable time.
-THERE IS NO GROOVEBOX CAPABILITY. Rhythm patterns will start one after the other in their own tempo, and, expecially, with no bar count logic whatsoever. In a groovebox, the next pattern starts playing, in tempo, after the old one has finished its bar count. Here, no way. Also, if you change rhythm style, they downright JUMP to the next like you kicked a turntable while spinning a record. Absurd.
-THERE REALLY IS NO SEQUENCER MENU: this is weird, the sequencer does not have its own structure, it looks as it's scattered all over the place with no roof of its own. That is both incovenient and confusing. It is not directly tied to the Performance setup, nor the patch, nor the Song menu, or what the heck is going on here.
-THERE IS NO REALTIME CONTROL AVAILABLE FOR PATCH EDITING, TRACK VOLUMES AND PAN AND THE REST, meaning that you cannot INSTANTLY do that. You have to access screens and highlight tracks, or else the faders and knobs will do absolutely nothing.
-EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO USE (SONGS, SAMPLES, WHATEVER) NEEDS TO BE PRE-LOADED. That is amateurish to say the least. Even a 5-year old economy keyboard like the RS-70 (from Roland, incidentally), did retain all in memory at power off. And it could do song chain, in tempo. And pattern mixing. In tempo. And it had the same (if not better) soundset as the J-G.
-THE AUDIO FEATURES ARE DIFFICULT TO USE, LOW IN VOLUME AND SUBJECT TO QUIRKS. I wouldn't expect nothing more.
The sounds are good, but come on, when's the last time you saw a modern keyboard from Roland with bad sounds on board?
Bottom line is, try really saving up for that Fantom (even the X will do), or, if you are looking for more groove-oriented features, for a MC-909; the Juno G is going to be a real disappointment for anyone who has used pro keyboards before.
-If you want to use it for just playing the sounds live, it won't do that well because it's not properly designed as a stage keyboard (reduced-size keys, anyone?). opu can get THOUSANDS of other keyboards for that use only.
-If you want to use it for your own music production, it will downright KILL your creativity and frustrate your energy. You will come to hate it in a few days, maybe sooner.
-If you want to use it for midifile playing, let me just laugh at that option.
-And lastly, when you want to get rid of it, you'll have a hard time as its second-hand value is really low.
Roland sent this product out for some commercial reasons that i don't quite grasp, and it's aborted. Who's the guy who designed the OS and layout of this machine? Please send him back to stockroom or washroom cleaning, that's where he belongs.
THIS POST CONTAINS UNTRUE AND FALSE INFORMATION AND A HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE OPINION
AND HMMM... WHY HAVEN'T I DELETED IT YET? :-/
- Administrator
This is for everyone considering buying the JunoG as an economy alternative to the Fantom, or as a competitor to similarly-spec'd board.
DO NOT BUY IT unless you only need to use the sounds (very good soundset) and little else.
The Juno G cannot do the following things, all sequencer-related, which would have marked it as a proper "workstation" (it is not, actually):
-THERE IS NO SONG CHAIN OR SONG CUE LIST AVAILABLE. You cannot have a list of songs that will play seamlessly (mixing one into another). I've read manual cover to cover and I searched every corner of this appalling OS, to no avail. I am no newbie, trust me: if I haven't found it, means no one will in any reasonable time.
-THERE IS NO GROOVEBOX CAPABILITY. Rhythm patterns will start one after the other in their own tempo, and, expecially, with no bar count logic whatsoever. In a groovebox, the next pattern starts playing, in tempo, after the old one has finished its bar count. Here, no way. Also, if you change rhythm style, they downright JUMP to the next like you kicked a turntable while spinning a record. Absurd.
-THERE REALLY IS NO SEQUENCER MENU: this is weird, the sequencer does not have its own structure, it looks as it's scattered all over the place with no roof of its own. That is both incovenient and confusing. It is not directly tied to the Performance setup, nor the patch, nor the Song menu, or what the heck is going on here.
-THERE IS NO REALTIME CONTROL AVAILABLE FOR PATCH EDITING, TRACK VOLUMES AND PAN AND THE REST, meaning that you cannot INSTANTLY do that. You have to access screens and highlight tracks, or else the faders and knobs will do absolutely nothing.
-EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO USE (SONGS, SAMPLES, WHATEVER) NEEDS TO BE PRE-LOADED. That is amateurish to say the least. Even a 5-year old economy keyboard like the RS-70 (from Roland, incidentally), did retain all in memory at power off. And it could do song chain, in tempo. And pattern mixing. In tempo. And it had the same (if not better) soundset as the J-G.
-THE AUDIO FEATURES ARE DIFFICULT TO USE, LOW IN VOLUME AND SUBJECT TO QUIRKS. I wouldn't expect nothing more.
The sounds are good, but come on, when's the last time you saw a modern keyboard from Roland with bad sounds on board?
Bottom line is, try really saving up for that Fantom (even the X will do), or, if you are looking for more groove-oriented features, for a MC-909; the Juno G is going to be a real disappointment for anyone who has used pro keyboards before.
-If you want to use it for just playing the sounds live, it won't do that well because it's not properly designed as a stage keyboard (reduced-size keys, anyone?). opu can get THOUSANDS of other keyboards for that use only.
-If you want to use it for your own music production, it will downright KILL your creativity and frustrate your energy. You will come to hate it in a few days, maybe sooner.
-If you want to use it for midifile playing, let me just laugh at that option.
-And lastly, when you want to get rid of it, you'll have a hard time as its second-hand value is really low.
Roland sent this product out for some commercial reasons that i don't quite grasp, and it's aborted. Who's the guy who designed the OS and layout of this machine? Please send him back to stockroom or washroom cleaning, that's where he belongs.