mc909 and mv8000

Hi , i have the mv8800, and iam no sure to buy the mc909. Ist a mistake buy the mc909 having the mv8800? What ist the diference? i love the tecnodance and tecnopop( erasure) . Thanzs!

MC909 is a toy, and sounds outdated too.... the mv8800 is the real deal, and also cant/wont date cos its a sampler. No need to get the mc909 when uve got the mv8800 dude... buy a cheap vintage analogue synth or summin like a microkorg instead if u like vince clarke sounds...Or even sell the mv and get a mac, logic and a vintage drum machine and synth if you really wanna make that music. Or... do a load of Erasure remixes on the MV, thatd be pretty cool.

The MC 909 is not a toy!

As far as getting your samples off of it, You'll probably have to SAMPLE them.

Your samples are stored in internal memory (max 16 MB) or in Smart Media card(s).
When You sample anything the sample itself remaining in the volatile sampling ram area until You save them into the non-volatile ram area (internal ram or sm card).
If You make a resample (internal mixing or mix-in) You will get a hugw 2 channels master mix inside the volatile ram, You need to move it to the card (if its larger than 16 MB ).
From the card You can save the Wav file with a card adapter (its much much more faster way than via USB 1.1) of course if Your adapter 2.0 compliant and You will reach the Wav on the PC with this way.
MC 909's file management is not so flexible, but 128 MB is enough for a song that is around 10 mins or so...

MC 909 and MV 80x0 are quite different animals!

Cheers,

Attila

Know1... ok, its not a toy... but its got an outdated synthsis engine, that is ok if you want to make bad house music... no good for the kind of music the chap said he liked.

Outdated ?
A complete XV 5050 engine inside (+XV5080 sampler capabilities)
Of course its not a V-Synth engine but come on! It depends on Your talent and creativity mostly!
Bad house music ?
Music quality is relative to the equipments used, the imagination of the author and the musical talent of the arrenger.
So don't blame the MC-909 if You cant make 'quality' music with it....

Epilogue : every musical instruments has its own limitations, but look at the c64 for ex. and its sid engine and the music created with it nowadays its far beyound than ever thought....

Peace-out,

Attila

Oh and I forget that the MC909 has a gift to act like a multitrack recorder with the resampling function, so if You use 30-40 MB samples for sequencing (which is usually enough for a song) You can use the Ch 13-16 (for.ex) to store and handle multitracks and than You can bounce them onto Ch12 and start it over and over 'n' over

I think this groovemachine is by far the best for music composition.

I would agree IF you like that sound... and you cant argue with the fact that it more suited to dance music... ie things going 'over and over' as you said.

The original post is from someone wanting to make erasure type music who owns an mv8800.... there is NO NEED at all for that person to buy an mc909.... they could buy a decent analogue synth for that and a mic, and the job would be done.... that was my point.

I quite like the mc909, you are preaching to the converted.... but to my ears it sounds dated...any synth modelling does.

What do You mean 'that sound' ?
Its basicaly a digital sampling workstation, if You don't like the rom waveforms, just ignore them and load what You like.
We cant compare it to MV80x0 cose its strenght is a center studio usage, MC 909's advantage is the live act capabilities, so maybe he would want to perform his compositions live, who knows.....he should decide need it or not...

I agree with You about the analog gear choice, like a Little Phatty, Prophet 08, etc...
But I dont understand how could any sound synthesis/modelling dated ...??
Its a matter of fact that Vince Clark used very different kind of synthesizers, samplers, etc...

Peace-out!

Attila

Hi! thanzs for your responses. reason with the analogical sound: the best choice one analog sintetizer (prophet 08 or virus TI....)
And if besides this sound also I look for sound tecnodance or tecnofunky? the mc909 ist more rapid of composition job? ist interesant option? or ist better to search sounds "tecno" for the mv8800? ist posible this? Thanzs again!

Nord72 Yes, agreed... you could simply use samples in the 909...but again... why would you want to buy a 909 to run samples when youve got an mv8800. And for live useage,.... surely thats what Ableton was invented for no?? Ableton WIPES THE FLOOR with the 909 for live use. I jsut think its a bit of a redundant machine thats all.

How can synthesis sound dated? What I mean by that is both back in the past (ie Erasure like this guy likes), and now, the sound that people use and like is actual analogue synthesis... People have finally admitted to themselves that all the modelling in world cannot ever sound as good as analogue synthesis. It just cant. And the mc909 to me sounds 'stuck' in the past already to me.

Pep4. The mc909 is perfect for techno.