Korg Fan who chose the G6!

kenchan:

i too was not impressed with the offerings from other manufacturers. especially the newer korgs (i was also a korg fan) just sounds like crap. is it because yamaha owns them now?

G-Man :

kenchan what are you saying.... yamaha owns korg now??? again??? I read somewhere on the net that this happened before .. I guess it was the late 80's and the beginning of the 90's. The guys at Korg bought the actions back when they finally had the money.

Yeah, I have read this one too (about Yamaha owning Korg in the past), but I think that Korg bought themselves back with the sales of the widely accepted M1 workstation. I don't know if this exists now again, though.

ok, maybe im wrong... im going by hearsay.

but regardless im not missing the Korg brand name. i cracked up when i sat down and started playing with the sounds at the store.

Whether this exists or not, what I know is that of the two FG's main competitors (Yamaha Motif XS and Korg M3), the Motif XS is way better sounding than the M3. Of course, neither of them surpasses the FG in terms of sound quality and features.

First of all congratulations on your new G6 quebec88! You made a great choice and I'm sure you will derive many years of pleasure from it. Second, since your wife is giving you the G6 as a birthday present it does you well to wait until it is at least near your birthday before opening it up out of respect for your wife. Bravo!

>> Yamaha bought a major stake in Korg back in the 80's as was mentioned. Korg bought back most of Yamaha's stock in 1993. Yamaha still owns some stock in Korg corporation to this day though. But from a business perspective Yamaha has no joint effort in business dealings with Korg from what I understand. That is, they are currently direct competitors with each other and not cohorts together in business as far as I know.

FWIW, I have never owned a Korg product period. I have played many of them, from the Triton to the OASYS, but I could never muster the effort it takes to open my wallet and buy one. I almost bought the Triton Extreme way back when, but eventually passed on it because of the quirkiness of the touch screen, amongst some other anomalies I thought it had. It does have some very good sounds on it though, in my opinion.

The current flagships from Yamaha and Korg i.e. the Motif XS and the M3, have both been on the market for over two years now, and I fully expect something new from both of them within the next two years or sooner. Roland, on the other hand, is probably at least 3 years away from releasing its next generation flagship in my opinion. And no, it probably won't have the word "Fantom" embossed on it either. Just like Yamaha's next workstation most likely won't have the word "Motif" embossed on it. I also expect Korg to engage in a major "design" overhaul on their next workstation. The M3 is dirt ugly in my opinion, and Korg would do well to hire a new design team, or else tell the ones they now employ to "get with it", or if not, show them the door and tell them not to let it hit them on the way out.. You snooze you lose, as they say. Dan! Wake up! Join the living! Don't make yourself soooooo scarce ol' pal, ol' buddy, ol' friend. We miss your participation here on RC Dan! Really, we do. We all would like to know how OS 1.31 is coming along and if Roland has given you clearance to discuss that topic; and/or if the next Connects Pack will be released near the first part of August , or, the last part of August , or, somewhere in between. Or whether, God forbid, Roland has indeed pulled the plug from your participation here on RC ever again?? If that's the case, then I guess we won't be hearing from you ever again, eh? Bummer dude...

PS: I realize that Japanese custom, in most instances, is not to get engaged in edgy or controversial subject matter, or (what can appear to be) combative or confrontational behavior between us and you i.e. - Roland and company. If that is indeed what is going on with them, then unfortunately, you have no say in it Dan and you are only doing what they are requiring of you to do. It's a shame though really. A company goes back into its shell and isolates themselves from the very people they are trying to reach out to i.e. their customers and/or potential customers. Just like they did as a Country on the whole, for centuries on end, i.e. they isolated themselves from the rest of the world. As did China for thousands of years as well, until just recently.

Oops! Got off on a tangent somehow. Sorry..

Again, Bravo! quebec88.

Well, I finally broke down. I went 14 days with the G in the box. I just opened it up tonight.......19 days before my birthday. Damn, is the G6 heavy for a 61 key unit. It's built like a tank! I hooked an optical mouse to it, which is awesome. So far, really impressed with it. I'm not sure about the pianos though....I haven't found my favorite yet. Some of them just seem to bright for my taste. Any suggestions?

Dom

quebec... congrats!!!

Welcome to the first disappointment... I am sure you will get used to it with Fantom-G....

Anyways... Have you upgraded to 1.3? OS 1.3 has some new piano patches.

If brightness is the only problem, just close the filter a little....

Play with the master compressor..

And try different keyboard velocity settings in system settings...

Thanks Shakil.

I did upgrade to 1.3 already. Thanks for the tips. I'll try what you mentioned......I'm sure a little tweaking is just what some of them need. I'm so overwhelmed tonight as I'm just grasping all the features and modes of the G. I can't say enough about the build of the G. I'm very impressed. The screen, the knobs, the sliders, the keys, etc....no cheap parts at all!

yes... the only thing that looks cheap to me is the joystick...........

so much for joy! I used it a lot but I am having problem with the record and play buttons. I hit it a lot and it coming all loose and bend inward to a point of sinking.
welcome! and yes those new piano patches are just awesome. sounded good in church this past Sunday. Cuts through the mix with no "hesitation". with some warm-string, its all good. enjoy your G!

Hey en76


what are the patched you play in church, even I play in a church too. If you play the organ patches what are they. Any detail will be welcome

Dom i.e. quebec88,
you might also want to check out The Fantom G Patch Archive if you haven't already. There is one Ac. Piano patch there in particular from our member MadaHorn called "AC NY Grand 8" which is really good and might suit you better then the FG Presets. The patch archive files have a .mid extension and you will need the Fantom G Editor to open them and to transfer them onto your Fantom G6. You will also need the Fantom G USB driver installed on your computer beforehand. And you will also need to be in Single Mode when accessing and/or loading the patch into your Fantom G. Connect a high speed USB 2.0 cable from the FG to your computer first, and then turn on the computer (if it isn't already on) and then power ON your Fantom G. The FG User Manual explains it in detail if you have further questions about the process.

Of course, there are also several other Ac. Piano patches in the Archive too that you might like also, and many other type(s) of patches too. PS: If you do decide to load any custom patches into your Fantom G using the Fantom G Editor you want to make sure you load and save them into "empty" (available) User slot(s); unless you actually wanted to overwrite an existing User patch for some reason.

Enjoy your birthday present Dom! >> I think the wife deserves a little something special for her generosity too. Maybe a dozen long stem roses and a dinner for two at a fine restaurant perhaps? I'm sure you'll think of something..

for the most part i bottom out on these non-weighted keys very easily when i play. so chances are (as shakil mentioned) change velocity settings and you might be ok.

you're probably hearing the brightest note of the piano because you're hitting it a full or near full velocity.

after playing my v-piano for the last month, even my G8 sounds like the entire tone is compressed with limited dynamics. with the non weighted keys it will show its limitation even easier.

well, in a patch you get only 4 velocity layers.. by the way Motif XS can have up to 128 velocity layer multisample.... and upto 8 multisamples at the same time....

That does not sound accurate.

it is unbelievable, but it's true. the trick is in the multisamples on Motif. in addition to key range, there is velocity range 1 to 127.