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Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

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Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

6 Jul 2009, 20:43
Yes calebfoster, I also like this idea. :)

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 03:57
Hi Artemiy, then what is a "bug" in your opinion?

I paid €2500,- for my G7 (yes, lucky I was) and one expects a decent synth for that prize.

And yes, it is.....it's a good synth! I love it.
But something like this thing? Come on!!!!
The previous synth generations never had this issue.

Like for an example : You buy a brand new flashlight but instead of pushing the ON/OFF switch you now have to shake it before it turns on or off and still has an ON/OFF switch with the use standard battery.

Hope this will clear my little frustration.

So if you look around the forum you'll see I'm not the only one who's addressing this particularly issue.

Anyway, keep doing the good work! I love this forum and we all can share a lot of ideas / experiences.

Regards, folks!

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 04:02
salsakid: Roland has announced that this one has been done on purpose, so that noobs can always find patch #1 when they turn to Single mode. I don't believe they will make it work as it did in the previous workstations. I agree that this is no bug, but it is something that has to change. The Fantom-G is a flagship workstation and flagship workstations are mostly for pros, not for noobs.
If they wanted to integrate such childish features to a workstation, they could add this functionality to Juno-G or something like that. The Fantom-G is Roland's current flagship synth and flagship synths are all about customization.

Thank God we've got Favorites mode, otherwise this would be the design oddity of the century.

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 04:15
Hi Cyclops,

But then at least this should have been mentioned when the G-series were introduced....(let's say, it's good news / new feature...)

I don't know how the X-series works, but do these have the same thing or...?

Synth / Workstation / Flagship / Pros & Noobs.....

Call it what it needs to be called.....
I rest my case...

A relief with v1.30

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 12:04
Agreed, I guess Favorites is their answer to this issue. I do miss my Triton, which would give me the option of what mode / and patch to bring up on boot up, let alone, remember which patch I was last working on. Just seems logical to me. But that's just me.

Options/preferences would be nice.

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 12:34
My 15-year-old XP50 offers the choice for startup status selection: either default (user patch 001) or last state (whatever patch/performance you last played before turning off). I guess that noobs knew how to dial their preset patch #1 back then. Maybe it's hard times now. But again, maybe it's just me.

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 13:07
I don't like the Roland design policy that they design their OS for noobs.

How about compiling a demo OS for the shops and have real one for the real users?
Jesse J / The Fantom G Facebook group - Please join!

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 13:23
jessej: You can dream on man... :-D

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 15:05
my idea to solve this problem would be automatic remembering of patch and if you hit single button again then it will return to 001 ?????? might work

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 15:10
With this logic, every time you hit Studio button, we'd have that demo song loaded there...
Jesse J / The Fantom G Facebook group - Please join!

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 15:25
what im saying here is that buy pressing the single button while already in single mode the button would act like the piano button on the fantom x there for all the noobs that need the it to return to patch 001 can have the added trouble of hitting the button twice to get back and for the rest of use we can get back to the patch we want

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 15:47
It's quite amusing that Roland had such little faith in their own Favorites system that they assumed noobs couldn't figure it out and had to put in this absolutely retarded "feature", especially when it runs counter to every other "professional" synth they've manufactured in the past, oh, two decades.

Doubly amusing is that they never once mentioned to noobs that this is the expected behaviour!!!

I'm still convinced the whole "Lack of dedicated piano button" is just a lame cop-out excuse to cover over the fact they bungled even this tiny little piece of functionality. But that's just my opinion...

Rick

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Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 16:22
rbarkhouse: maybe the whole approach about this feature is amusing, but not when you are in a live situation and have selected a sound that is not stored in a Favorite location. Go back and forth between modes and you've got instant frustration. Made by Roland of course.

Long live noobs!!!

Re: Update 1.30....missed a very important update!!!

7 Jul 2009, 16:27
Just another reason not to "upgrade ... " from Fan-X ...

I find the reasoning behind this "feature" almost insane because it puts the needs of the few (noobs in a music store ... who won't always be that) ahead of the needs of the many (competent and pro users) ...
Some tunes and whatnot ...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=405125



some tunes and whatnot ...
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=405125

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