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Artemiy... please answer this!

Artemiy... please answer this!

16 Apr 2009, 20:08
it looks simple... i find hard

i mostly use my JUNO-G to play live .
i know i'm not using more than 25% of its potential.
but, anyway...
i play in patch mode: basic instruments, acoustic kind.

so, with my old roland fp-8 i used to change instruments in the middle of the song (from strings to piano, for example) and didnt have the cutt-off that the juno-g does. (i know my english is not clear, but i hope you can get my point)
should i press any secret button or something? i wouldnt like to know that to do something apparently so simple i should create a "perform" the switch instruments in mode "song" and all that kind of things that looks really far for a beginner??...
is there any solution or the juno-g is complicated even for the simple things?

thank you a lot!

one more thing

16 Apr 2009, 20:13
about OS 2.0

i dont have any Card... cause i bought my keyboard last month... so i think i still don't need any.
but in the "read-me-first" of the OS update it says:
WHAT WILL I NEED?
+ your juno-g
+ a PC or Mac computer
+ a compact flash card (1gb or less)
+ a PC card-to-compact flash adapter
+ the update file


so... any risk of erasing important things? (i didnt record anything yet)

Re: Artemiy... please answer this!

16 Apr 2009, 20:54
1. turn effects off
2. and patch remain on.

make sure reverb and chorus are off as well.

Re: Artemiy... please answer this!

17 Apr 2009, 07:42
I never work like this. When I play live, I have all the patches I need assigned to the performance parts. I just switch between them from the mixer screen, and since they are all already loaded there is no switch time at all.

Re: Artemiy... please answer this!

18 Apr 2009, 10:29
the patch remain mode is useless, thanks to the fact that it is really badly implemented.
Artemiy, how do you quickly turn on/off parts from the part mixer?
Anyway, I think that:
1) if the sound stops for a while, it is not a problem in 99% of the cases. The patch change from the live settings screen is fast enough, so you can just live with it. When you play live in a band, nobody will notice if you stop playing a moment before changing the patch.
2) having a second midi controller connected to the Juno can be very useful. You can prepare performances where the sounds are split across the two keyboards and so you don't have to change patch at all during a song, or at least very rarely. That's what I do. It's a pity, though, that you cannot define key ranges for sounds assigned to an external keyboard (will Roland ever address this issue?), so if your controller does not allow to define zones, you can have only one sound on the external keyboard. A trick that can do is to program key ranges directly inside the patches (you create a custom version of the patch with the desired key range that you will use only in that performance), then you assign them to different parts of the performance but on the same midi channel (the one the controller is using), so you can put more than a sound in split on an external controller.
With a second keyboard, you can forget having to change patches in the middle of a song, and you can concentrate on playing, though it requires a bit more work when you prepare your patches/performances.

Re: Artemiy... please answer this!

18 Apr 2009, 15:49
the patch remain mode is useless,

not entirely true. If you turn off mfx, reverb and chorus it works fine. But you miss out on effects. Okay for a lot of basic sounds mixed live.

I don't work like this because I have an X. With the X I can use RPS on the pads and keys for seamless sound combinations and switching.
I completely agree with you da-man, because what you addressed about switching effects off and switching patch remain on, i've noticed real smooth connected flow with certain sounds. I have never had better sound flow into one another with patch remain until you pointed out about switching fx off.

Re: Artemiy... please answer this!

20 Apr 2009, 05:22
hi Kreba do you have an X or a G?

Re: Artemiy... please answer this!

21 Apr 2009, 04:02
To KREBA

OK,

.....but you know you really ought to get yourself an X. :)

All the Fantom models are !!!!!GREAT!!!!!

21 Apr 2009, 05:04
The only comparative differences between the 2 synths is that the Fantom - X has more fundamentals, features and more sounds to play with. You can {almost} do exactly the same as the Fantom X, with the Juno - G, but with acceptance, i have to do more hard work at synthesizing' to bring out the creativity;___ which is not easy. The Juno - G has plenty for what i need. I love my baby machine.

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