Quantization improvement is useless!!!

I notice that 2, it don't work.

Firstly, the real-time quantization is a new feature. I'm not sure what "understanding" is referring to, but the new feature enables you to change the quantizing on the way in. And it "do" work.

And, if you want my thoughts on rather I think the topic of your thread sucks, then yes, the topic of your thread sucks, because the improvement is not useless. What am I supposed to do with a thread topic with that title. Agree? GMAB.

On the subject of changing quantizing in real-time on playback, it's a wish list item we definitely know about. Those are house secrets though.

Also, if you aren't aware, we have a lot of the groove templates from the MV, in Phrase Modify, that you can apply to a phrase. If you don't dig the results you can always UNDO them:

Dan, no need to be so testy dude, I have simply never heard of anyone needing to change quantization values mid-stream on a single track/performance, UNLESS they were able to hear those changes! I mean how do you even know you want a different quantization value until you stop the sequencer to play it back?!?

I mean, one can change the quantization vaules 10 times while recording, they won't be able to hear ANY of those changes until they press STOP and play it all back. Just seems to be backwards to me, when the ability to make these quantizations changes "WHILE' playing back an already recorded performance and hearing the changes makes a ton more sense. It is just a strange feature if you ask me and I called it useless becuase it is useless to me, and many others from the comments I am seeing. and I quite honestly don't understand what is so special about this feature to you.

I know you work for Roland but don't take the thread topic so personally as you seem to be doing. But then again, to a degree, I understand your passion for your job.

At least it is good to hear it is a wish list item that Roland is aware of. That alone gives me confidence that it will show up sooner or later.

Thanks for the info.
-Darryl Duncan
www.darrylduncan.com
www.gamebeatstudios.com

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What you say makes perfect sense and is, in fact, a desireable feature. But applying quantization AFTER recording is how I've always used it with every single hardware sequencer I knew (starting way back with Roland MC-500 since the very first i used, the MSQ-100, didn't had quantization at all). So modifying the quantization on recording is a real new feature. It's makes all the sense if you are adding different instruments on the same "take" (drum and percussion instruments immediately comes to my mind). Yes, you must know the templates before applying or you have to undo after listenning but that's nothing knew.
I also would like to see a function that would let me listen to the sequencer while changing note lengths on a track. But that all belongs to "The List"

I do not think the new feature is useless at all. If I want to record a shuffle hihat instead of straight, I now can. I could do it in the past too, but I'd have to go into microscope and do the quantizing there and then come back to the song. This new feature bypasses those unnessesary multiple steps.

What I would like to see is, referring to Dan's screenshot* above, is that in the right corner you have 'cancel' and 'select', there should be one more button called 'Preview'. It would speed up working a LOT.

What I DO think needs to be further implemented in this function is that if I have ROLL selected on the Pads, the pad roll resolution reflects what the INPUT QTZ says on the Realtime Rec Standby screen. Now it doesn't. I also wish the Roll function could be enabled on the keyboard to, since many of us input the drums via the keyboard.

*)= How do I make a screenshot, Dan?

PS. I think the topic sucks too!

- Jesse -

The Mv-8800 allow you to hear the chages in real time.

Both MV8800 and Motif XS allow you to audition your quantize changes in real time. Plus you can adjust swing(shuffle) along with quantize strength on one screen. Both are also non destructive but if we could just audition the song as we make changes in real time I think it is OK if it is not non destructive.

The XS goes further with its real time Play FX and allows you to quantize the velocity and duration of just the swing or back beat notes with positive or negative values to emphasize the swing or produce a ghost effect. You also have control over track delay or shift timing to slide the whole track forward or back a bit. This is all on one screen.