Fantom-S and Fantom-X

samples being trashed

samples being trashed

14 Feb 2004, 04:11
I am having a problem with my S88 that I am wondering if anyone else is having. I am sampling some of the songs from my old keyboard that I am getting rid of. The songs usualy come over ok, but sometimes, they have a huge static in them. The display shows maxed solid noise. Sometimes they will come over clean, then in the process of saving another, one that was clean will get trashed. I am fearful of bad memory. It doesn't seem to matter if it is one of the first samples, or the last.

Thanks for any help.

Dave
Dave

Re: samples being trashed

14 Feb 2004, 06:54
What version of the OS are you running?

There were known sampling problems with 1.6.
Loz

Re: samples being trashed

14 Feb 2004, 11:56
I am running 107. I had the same problem when I got it with 105. I upgraded hoping that would fix the problem. As an update, when I restarted, most of the samples I made were trashed. I chose to unload and reload them using the load utility and then they were clean. I had this problem before adding any additional memory. I think I will try removing the three SRX cards. Hard to imagine that being the cause though.

Dave
Dave

Problem solved.

14 Feb 2004, 13:25
I removed my 128MB pc100 ECC memory, in installed a 256MB pc133 from my computer, and my problems seem to have gone away.

Has anyone noticed that the size listed in the Sample list is off by a factor of 5?

I made a 5 minute sample of an arpeggio. It reports the file as being 13000kb, but it took 52921kb on a 128MB smart media card.

When I only had 32mb of sample memory, I could only load enough samples to where summing the reported amounts was about 3.2 mb

Dave
Dave

Re: samples being trashed

15 Feb 2004, 01:17
Dave,

You made exactly what I would suggest about your memory.

When I purchased my S88 here it came with the RAM fully expanded, but it came with the memory damaged.
Anyway I probably had to put my buck in a 256 since I've got in mind that this keyboard should come to my hands with just 32 mb.
All I have to say is that, when I've noticed this problem, I have passed a whole frustrating saturday night.
After reinstalling my dimm the problem that I had with my FS's sampler has gone.

I would say that I've bought my FS in the dark... But for now, every thing is 100% working!



Paz - Edu Camargo.
Peace - Edu Camargo.

View my musical works @ www.educamargo.mus.br

Re: samples being trashed

16 Feb 2004, 06:10
hi,
i got the same problem. i upgraded memory with 128k pc133 module, and after i load several samples it messed them up and samples sounded with jitter. the os is 1.05
did i understand you right, the problem is 128K module? should i replace it with 256K?

i also heard that there are modules with different number of chips on them (4-8-...), and they work with different types of computer motherboards, cos they differs somehow in addressing or something..... maybe that is the case?





Peace,
Peace,

Re: samples being trashed

16 Feb 2004, 14:33
Well, this may occur with 128 or 256. In my case the problem was with a board with 256.
It is important to see if you have the appropriate specifications:
PC100/133 DIMM, 68 pins, from 64 to 512 megs.
There's also an amounth of mhz of processing, so I'll need to check out to give you the exact information.
Maybe this mHZ ishue is being the reason for this jitter problem.

My sampler, as I've mentioned, now is working very well, after replacing the board.



Paz - Edu Camargo.
Peace - Edu Camargo.

View my musical works @ www.educamargo.mus.br

Re: samples being trashed

16 Feb 2004, 16:53
I only know what happened to me. I seem to remember having problems with 105 before adding memory, I added the 128, and still had the problem. I upgraded to 107, and still had the problem. I changed to the 256, reset the SRX to two, and my problem went away.

I don't know if the problem might come back if I change the SRX back to 4. I will try that tonight.

Dave
Dave

Re: samples being trashed

26 Feb 2004, 09:58
well, a few more thoughts an the issue...

i told to guys in computer stores about sdram memory for musical instrument and one said that i should look for brand-name module, whereas another one supposed that it requires multi-chip module (not less than 16).

than i take 2 additional modules to try with FS (all of three are PC-133, 128K) and here is the picture i've got:

1. 8-chip module, manufacturer Micron, small square chips, 4 on each side. - does NOT work.

2. 8-chip module, manufacturer M.Tec, long chips, like those on the picture in FS manual, 8 on one side. - DOES work.

3. 16-chip module, manufacturer Samsung, long chips, like those on the picture in FS manual, 8 on each side. - DOES work.


so, though i solved my case, i'm confused about the cause, and we hardly may advise somebody with the same problem on choosing the right module.
probably one should look for the module that looks like one on the picture in manual :)) (disclaimer: this is rather a joke)





Peace,
Peace,

Re: samples being trashed

28 Feb 2004, 21:24
Sorry for the delay in following up. I am not allowed to surf at work anymore, and have been working all the time. Any way, I did try switching back to 4 srx, and I haven't seen a recurrance of the problem. The memory I am using has 8 long chips on each side. The memory I removed seems ok in my computer. Maybe it wasn't seated well in the fantom.

Thanks for the discussion...

Dave
Dave

← Back to Fantom-S and Fantom-X