sending my G6 back to musicians friend

Doug

I don't know how long have you been using the Fantoms. There are some major features that're unique to Roland workstations. Yamaha and Korg workstation don't give you these.

1. Changing tracks while recording. A must have for loop or pattern recording. [Alesis Fusion allows this.]
2. Rehearsal mode in recording.
3. Editing patches in sequencer, and then save all 16 patches, including drum kits, with the song. [Yamaha has MixVoices, but not for drum kits (for example, you can't edit reverb levels for invidual drums sounds ( you must edit in patch mode, save as a new user kit and then use that). Korg allows only few parameter offsets, no drum kit editing in song]. Fantoms allow you to make any edits and actually record the editing as automation. For example you could have 4 tones play in bar one, but ony 3 tones in bar 2. Automate filter types. unlimited options....

I don't know if you care about these.

Yes I know i am missing all these features form the Korg , wish i could afford both but for now the Korg works better for my work flow.

Cheers

Hi Doug

Funny that’s your first post in this forum, is about sending your FG back. Maybe the reason is that you haven’t owned one yourself. Just a thought.

Hey Doug,

I too stepped away from the Fantom G and got an M3. Reasons:

1. Great price
2. KARMA - This is a pretty big reason, especially since Korg is now releasing an update for the M3 that will allow users to bake their own GEs (This, IMO is very cool!!) and import them into the M3.
3. Free RADIAS EXB - Analogue capabilities.
4. Korg's software-update strategy, I love the fact that they release so much software/sounds and keep you updated.

I have been playing with the M3 for about 3 days now, only to realize that I would never be happy with **ONLY** the M3 in my arsenal. Big 4 reasons:
1. Sequencer sucks (barely useable, I guess I have been spoilt rotten by my Fantom X), I've heard lots of good music made with the M3 on the forums, so Im thinking it's probably my inability to work with it and produce results.
2. Sounds are good (simple to get a reasonable tone), but the Fantom sound engine is far more advanced, with the dual LFOs (step LFO also) per tone (voice), ring modulator, booster, and the filter and amp envelopes. IMHO one can tweak and achieve better sounds with the Fantom (mine's an X), sounds warmer too.
3. Keys feel toylike and very light to the touch, again spoilt by my Fantom's awesome feel and keys .
4. I feel that the Fantom (even the X) is much more suited to live play. Patch/effect switching is so easy and for the advanced users there's RPS and the variations.

You know, honestly Im very happy with my purchase of the M3, but having used the Fantom X for so long, I know Im never selling it, it's way too cool, and it totally compliments my M3.

The G is better than the X in lots of ways, wish Roland had done more with it though!! It seemed (and actually still does) like a half baked product, which is why I decided to wait ...

So, make sure you have realized the full potential of your G before you send it back ...

Manish

>>>sending my G6 back to musician friends

how many musician friends do you have? They must be good friends though...

It's certainly odd to make your first post on a forum an announcement that you are returning the product which is the subject of the forum ... you always have to wonder about the motivations for something like that.

This shouldn't be some sort of religious/political competition. Fantoms, Motifs and Triton/M3s are all really fabulous pieces of gear. Preferences are to be expected, but they don't need to be a case of "picking sides".

People are often confused by the array of choices and are fearful that they have somehow made the "wrong" choice. The truth is that there is no "wrong" choice, and it's really not necessary to have a pissing contest about what workstation you prefer.

Roland gave a demo at samash and I thought it was a great keyboard and so i had it for 25 days and was dissapointed in the lack of developement as compared the the Fantom X series that I just sold. I am sure in a year it might be a great keyboard but right now it is just lacking for me .

Doug

oh well sad to hear that... but hey you say its not for you so enjoy your m3, FG with lots of headroom in it, it only can get better. http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=644