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Mixer or Perfromances? Sounds WTF im mad! grrrr

Mixer or Perfromances? Sounds WTF im mad! grrrr

20 Aug 2005, 18:16
I've had the FS for over a month and im bored with the sounds i even bought an orchestral expansion for it .....

but still the sounds aren't really blowing my mind like the triton used to,when i went into the store and played with that ......

so i figure it was time to start switching sounds and tweaking right?

anyways i've made about 30 songs
to start each one i'll use the seq:template and changed each sound on the mixer to what i want when im done creating,the way i save the mixer settings [so each of these sounds will load on the appropriate track] is to save it as a performance.....

im doing this right, right?
thats how the keyboard knows which sounds go for each track of the sequence right?

if i saved a song without saving the performance the sequence would play like it should?

anyways im asking this because

well how the hell are you suppossed to make combos like the triton has?
i feel like i was robbed .....
i need more inspiring sounds .....

not to say i want to sell my baby[fs] cause i dont
i just dont want to still have to buy the motif and triton as well
and this is how im feeling

Re: Mixer or Perfromances? Sounds WTF im mad! grrrr

20 Aug 2005, 23:00
i'll try and stab this one, but i might not be the best.
you have to save the performance when you have a song that uses it. It's like this, the svq. is just the note info, there are not sound attached to it, so if you have a song with a bass line and you switch the patch to a string, the same notes will be played in the song but with the string patch playing. so you have to save the performance, thats the structure that aranges the patches. so the notes you played in track one will sound with the patch you played it with.
so if you have a performance saved, you can write dozens of svq. songs off of on performance, given that you don't change the structre, i.e. the patches that are assigned.
i havn't worked with a korg, so i don't know what the differneces of performance and combo's are.
but one thing you should note. the patch mode and performance mode's are different. if you make a patch edit to a patch in performance, you have to save that patch seporate from the performance to retain the edits. this might be the problem your having.

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Re: Mixer or Perfromances? Sounds WTF im mad! grrrr

21 Aug 2005, 00:47
ok so i was doing it right.

but im still irritated....
i want combo patches i have none.....
how the ...... do i go about combinding patches?

plus im venting because i was so damn used to making songs in fruity loops ......
it was much easier for me to program .....

but the ultimate keys and world collection sold me to buy the fantom i wanted access to those sounds......

i think im going to still have to get the other 2..... talk about overkill not to mention all of the vsts i all ready own ....

blah
damn gear whore im turning into i think

thanks though

Re: Mixer or Perfromances? Sounds WTF im mad! grrrr

21 Aug 2005, 21:23
i would say work on it for some time before running to the store for more gear. like i said, i don't have any korg synths, so i don't know what the difference is from rolands performance and korg combo, so give me and example of what you want done, i'll try and help get it done on the fantom. from what i've read from other owners, there isn't much difference in what a korg or a yamaha or a roland can do.
i had about 2 months before i really started making songs on the X. i was new to synths then, so it was a steep learning curve, but i have yet to think of an idea and not found a way to do it on the X, so i'm sure there is a solution.
oh, and like i always say, read artemio's tweek book, you can download it off this site for free, and if it helps, he has a new version in print with a sample CD and some patch examples for sale. it made programing understandable. since i've run through it, i havn't used a stock sound. i tweek everything. this might just be the ticket.

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