Toraiz SP-16: the spiritual drum companion of the JP-80?

its cool but a bit pricey for what it does. the dave smith and roger linn tempest is a much better product (i own a tempest).

roger linn has made a linnstrument. ever had a gander at it?

https://youtu.be/thFD5ezOn3c?t=14s

The Tempest is pricey too. It can't import samples and I have yet to hear a sound demo I like. It's more cool/weird than practical. The Arturia Drum Brute is the analog drum machine I prefer so far, but the lack of patch recall is a deal breaker. I can't be expected to reprogram the drums each time I switch between projects! What a missed opportunity! The Elektron stuff is fine on paper but what horrible interfaces with gruesome pads and buttons. And the TR-8 is way too limited, can't really be played (no pads) and always sounds the same.

The Linnstrument is just a MIDI-controller, right? I'm working on my piano-style muscle memory and am not in the market for another input style. Maschine etc are better drum controllers but require a computer. I want stand-alone hardware.

A sampler can sound like anything, which really appeals to me. The MPC Live is also on my radar and has better specs/features in some areas. But so far I prefer the Toraiz interface and workflow. It so reminds me of the Jupiter-80 experience.

whoa cowboy! didnt mean to strike a nerve! ;-)

i didn't know all of that data you posted in your follow up post! please accept my apologies for disrespecting your intelligence and missing your actual meaning.

ill followup though.. :)

the tempest is an awesome bit of kit. its a 6 analog voice synth that can do beats. no sample input (didn't know that was a feature you had to have since you didnt list any deal breakers in your first post) which let down a lot of early adopters. the machine is awesome and is worth its price since, as mentioned, its a 6 voice analog synth. it has many cool old school linn samples and obx and other flavors too. i love it.

the drumbrute, yeah i have that too. :D it sounds old school analog-y (not a fan of the snare though). you can save patches via the computer interface.

yeah the linnstrument is a midi player. again i didnt know what you need so pardon my ignorance.

i have the tr9 which is lovely!

i plan to get the mpc X! that is nice. played with it at namm this year.

i agree the pioneer thingy does compliment the "look" of the jp-80.

For the price I'd get an FA-06 for $300 cheaper.

I can't believe the price this is selling for, then again I'm a musician and not a DJ.

I own the FA-08 and a lot of what's listed reminds me of it.

Wow! That thing looks cool. Great features too. I'm in the market for a new drum machine, was thinking MPC but I need to do more research now.