Mahobe wrote:I have just replied another post in which I stress a point that many people seemed to omit since jupiters went out: it is not only a matter of comparing "sound banks", but the whole dynamics/layering/effects/arpeggios of the jupiters and what these combinations are capable of. Possibilities on those regards are not achievable by FA. Simple like that. Jupiters invite you to create amazingly complex and weird sounds that are not possible with that ease with any keyboard. Besides that, the building quality of jupiters have no comparison with FA. Play one besides the other, and you will notice it in 3 secs. One is chinese, the other made in Japan. One will have problems in three or four years, the other will not. I experienced it with the do 60 (Japan) and the stage (China). Jupiters will give you less "features" but incredible will to create more and more amazing and different sounds everyday, which I don't think the FAs are capable of. Jupiters will make you feel you bought an instrument your kids will still use. It will probably not happen with the FAs. As someone wrote once: probably people will not understand Jupiters today. They will take time. But they will surprise you every single day. They look simple, they are capable of extreme complexities. I see fancy teenagers looking for them desperately 20 y are from now. I see FAs selling very cheap by then. Personal opinion, maybe a little arrogant? Could be, though it is not the intention. That is what I can tell you from my humble experience. Good luck with your new Roland!
Great post! You know, when the Jupiter 80 was first advertised I really didn't like what I had read about it. Bear in mind please that I had just bought a Kronos and as you know, the manuals combined for that beat approach 1800 pages. I read that the Jupiter 80 had a 112 page manual. It was also an expensive instrument compared to other synths and was priced at workstation levels. Obviously, my thinking was SO misguided. I started following the Jupiter 80 forums and folks here like Soundworld A.D. for whom I have the deepest respect began talking about these insane layering capabilities, really FAT filters and all the other wonderful goodies. Still I remained a bit skeptical. I am also a diehard Kurzweil aficionado and despite the byzantine interfaces, Kurzweil synths are ridiculously powerful instruments for sound design.
Finally, after returning to The Netherlands after a trip home to America, on a lark I went to a music shop to try out a Jupiter 80. I selected the Dream Drone registration and WHAM!! The Jupiter 80 seemed to say, "look here moron, I am going to completely rearrange your misguided neurons. Sure, I look simple, but, buckle up, infinity awaits."
I do think that the Jupiter 80 will be a much sought after synth and 20 years from now when that happens, musicians will still be discovering possibilities that we never dreamed of.
All of that said however, I do wish much joy to musicians snagging these new Rolands because at the end of the day, it's the music that matters.
"Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream" - John Lennon "Tomorrow Never Knows"