Education time! Spread the word!!

Education time! Spread the word!!

30 Sep 2013, 05:33

Over at Korg Forums in the General Synthesizers/Keyboards section there is a thread about what synths are best for abstract and ambient sounds. Until my post today, there was only one mention of V-Synth! I know a lot of people here are also members there and I think we need to educate on what I thought was an obvious to most choice!

Synths mentioned before my short post and an even shorter mention earlier about V-Synth include:

Roland JP 880
Roland JP 8000
KORG Wavestation
KORG Trinity
KORG OASYS
KORG KRONOS.
ACCESS VIRUS (any flavour)
Alesis Andromeda A6
Hartmann Neuron (by far the best for abstract and ambient)
KAWAI K5000
Waldorf Blofeld
Korg Radias
Casio VZ-1
Motif ES, XF (!! Really??) I have to say that I really don't agree that Motifs are great for anything outside of bread and butter sounds, but, subjective I suppose.
Prophet 12

Except for the Motif series, I would agree with this list, but, it surprised me that V-Synth only had one mention before my post. Come on, do musicians totally miunderstand this instrument? Even before I had one, I knew it was more than capable of producing sounds that would be at the very least extremely difficult if not impossible to accomplish on other synths.

They also covered some softsynths, but, I'm not a softsynth kinda guy.

Anyway, here is the thread:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=562439#562439

Best,
Vlad

"Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream" - John Lennon "Tomorrow Never Knows"

Re: Education time! Spread the word!!

30 Sep 2013, 16:00

best for abstract and ambient sounds

This can get kind of tricky since it boils down to what the definition is for "ambient." Abstract is I guess easy enough since it could mean sound EFX and whirly swirly textures and the like, but ambient in the beginning was basically soft drone textures and soft pianos drenched in reverb.

It was ex-Roxy Music electronic whiz Brian Eno who coined the term w/r/t music with his "Music For xxxx" series, meant to be kind of like background music. But the dubbers got hold of the term and turned it into something entirely different so I think people have different ideas about just what the term sounds like or should sound like.

I guess I am not surprised to see the V-Synth not mentioned on KF, but I am equally surprised not to see the Triton, JD-990's, 01/W and even the Fantom. They all have such wonderful sound engines to produce some wonderful sound worlds and ambient textures of all sorts.

AS for the V, there was a project (or projects) that had all kinds of sound EFX patches. Some really abstract and fun stuff. Also I was able to produce all kinds of movement-laden patches by employing delayed LFO's, dual COSM and EFX's on my XT. The GT is able to produce even more stunning soundscapes and EFX due to the dual core engine.

Re: Education time! Spread the word!!

30 Sep 2013, 17:31

SoundworldA.D. wrote:
best for abstract and ambient sounds
This can get kind of tricky since it boils down to what the definition is for "ambient." Abstract is I guess easy enough since it could mean sound EFX and whirly swirly textures and the like, but ambient in the beginning was basically soft drone textures and soft pianos drenched in reverb.

It was ex-Roxy Music electronic whiz Brian Eno who coined the term w/r/t music with his "Music For xxxx" series, meant to be kind of like background music. But the dubbers got hold of the term and turned it into something entirely different so I think people have different ideas about just what the term sounds like or should sound like.

I guess I am not surprised to see the V-Synth not mentioned on KF, but I am equally surprised not to see the Triton, JD-990's, 01/W and even the Fantom. They all have such wonderful sound engines to produce some wonderful sound worlds and ambient textures of all sorts.

AS for the V, there was a project (or projects) that had all kinds of sound EFX patches. Some really abstract and fun stuff. Also I was able to produce all kinds of movement-laden patches by employing delayed LFO's, dual COSM and EFX's on my XT. The GT is able to produce even more stunning soundscapes and EFX due to the dual core engine.

Not forgetting the X/Y and Time-Trip PADs that would enhance even more the almost endless possibilities.

I think the V-Synths are a bit misunderstood (or unknown, if you will), but they are in fact one of a kind boards (I should say three of a kind - V, XT and GT lol)

Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Education time! Spread the word!!

30 Sep 2013, 18:36

Not forgetting the X/Y and Time-Trip PADs that would enhance even more the almost endless possibilities.

Most true! Most true Paulo!

And lest we forget even more mangling possibilities, there is an arpeggiator AND a X-step Modulator! Doof! I couldn't remember how many steps the MS has (14? 15? 16?) I have heard some wonderful pad movements using both of those things at once in imaginative and unexpected ways.

Whether it is Ambient, Ambient Dub, New Ambient, Old Ambient, Secret Society Ambient or Ambient for the Hoi Polloi, the V always shines!

In looking at a lot of the synths that Vlad mentioned in his post, i think the type of "Ambient" that was meant was the latter type. Nonetheless, the V's VA section can get some really beautiful textures, especially with all of the soundshaping abilities of the dual COSM's.

Re: Education time! Spread the word!!

3 Oct 2013, 07:32

In looking at a lot of the synths that Vlad mentioned in his post, i think the type of "Ambient" that was meant was the latter type. Nonetheless, the V's VA section can get some really beautiful textures, especially with all of the soundshaping abilities of the dual COSM's.

OUCH Doug... Just Forgot the 4 part StepSequencer and the awesome ARP...

Whether it is Ambient, Ambient Dub, New Ambient, Old Ambient, Secret Society Ambient or Ambient for the Hoi Polloi, the V always shines!.

ROBFCOL !!!!! ;-D

Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF