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Toughts on the Fantom S

Toughts on the Fantom S

8 Nov 2004, 18:00
Greetings everyone. I'm a brand new member of this board and I'm very happy to see a nice Fantom community (no pun). Nice board btw, just a bit on the slow side, but hey, it's free :)

I got a Fantom S for a good price now the the X and XA are out. I owned a few keyboards in the past from a Roland JV series to the Yamaha CS2x, Korg N1R module and used a few soft synths also. With those keyboards I was able to make semi-professional songs. The quality of the instruments was not good enough to create any kind of Top quality pop, hiphop song. Which is why I concentrated on Techno/trance/dance music. That kind of music my CS2x could handle no problem and sound pretty professional.

With that said, I've owned my Fantom S for about a week now. I've spent a good number of hours on it already and learned most of it's important features already, thanks the the nice Manual from Roland, this board (reading the tips and shortcuts from users) and the Roland seminars.

Needless to say I'm still in shock at the Fantom's features and quality. The number of timesaving features is outstanding. I'm already comfortable making fairly complex sequences and looping samples and using them in the sequence etc...

One thing I like to do when I first get a new Keyboard is make a cover of a song. That's the real test. To see if you can come close to imitating popular songs without using samples as much as possible. With my other keyboards, I had to chalk it up to having to poor acoustic instruments and limited sound mastering options.

I made a cover for the hiphop song by Juvenile "slow motion"
I love the guitar riff and the beat is very smooth. Well I got it pretty damn close on my Fantom without any sampling. I made some adjustments with the effects to get the Organ and guitar just right. I'd like to post them if anyone's interested.

I also made a cover for the song Lindsay Lohan "Rumors"
That song rocks if you ask me, very catchy beat and new sounds, lots of effects...little details make that song great. I got that one pretty close too. I'll get my sister to sing on it and watch out Lindsay, you'll have competition coming. The effects you can put on the inputs is insane !!!

I love the sampling ability of this keyboard from sampling internally and keeping everything digital by sending data to my computer and burning it. To the quality of the outputs and inputsm Bravo Roland ! The 64 note polyphony is enough for most tracks in my case, I can always sample and loop, it's so easy with the Fantom.

I listened to the songs in the Download section and was impressed by a song in particular : Fly2 very nice sound choice. But why did you put the drum volume so low ? I Cranked it up to max and I find the song sounds so much better now :)

And pianodick I love your song BFP. I'm not a big fan of that style of music. But that violin riff is HAUNTING lol. I love it and want to use it in one my projects. I like the piano backup that goes with it too. I cranked up the BPM to 100, I like it much better at that speed, it's got more groove at that speed.

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

8 Nov 2004, 20:28
I'd like to hear "Slow Motion" - my friend likes that song mostly (I'm not really into rap, a few things), he might be interested to listen.

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Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

8 Nov 2004, 22:45
I'll get it posted on my webspace soon but I can't link from it. Unless someone wants to host it.

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

8 Nov 2004, 23:25
Ah again, I'm impressed tonight.

Just converted a sweet little Pop/Dance track I made with my old Keyboards and modules. I didn't bother copying the track. I just found the sounds first then recorded the notes. It sounds better than on my old setup of course and it took me about 2 hours total. So easy with the RPS feature. Then assigning them to the pads and then just DJ'ing the whole song in a single attempt. Then recording a second track just for fade in and out and another one for sound effects. Sweet !

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

9 Nov 2004, 01:12
i definately want to hear the juvenile slow motion that you did...

i replayed the bassline using a aretha franklin sample.....

anyways

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

9 Nov 2004, 01:50
Hey Lancer

Welcome to fantomized.info - so nice & refreshing to hear such a positive first posting from you . Fantom - S is truly an awesome music making tool and I look forward to hearing what you can do with it!

Best wishes

Dog

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

9 Nov 2004, 02:28
Hehe, thanks. In about a week you'll see me posting in the help section. "why does my fantom randomly deletes my samples and/or sequences" lol. j/k

Well I have found a decent number of bugs already but nothing that is a real problem.

One example I have random issues (happened twice) trying to copy into a pattern. The data was slightly altered. I tried copying again same thing. It was quantized perfectly too. I had to record that line again then copying worked...
Bugs like this.

Oh one thing that does bother me and this seem to happen regularly. My Fantom seems to vary in BPM during playback. I thought I was going crazy or something but then I could really hear the music speed up and slow down. But it does seem to happen more when I browsing through the menus so I guess it's CPU related.

Other than that no other important issues yet. I'm sure the Yamaha Motif and Trition have bugs too :)

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

9 Nov 2004, 05:09
Lancer, I didn't realize that those songs were still available to hear. Thanks for your kind regards. I would love to hear the Rumors song you mentioned. Please notify the forum when it is available.
I have noticed my s-88 has a bug or two as well. One of my major issues is that I actually have to play the darned thing. I still don't understand why they couldn't make the preview button a hold until pushed again. Oh well. Welcome to the forum and please let's hear Rumors.
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Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

9 Nov 2004, 10:53
They aren't available anymore they've been taken down.
However I found a "cached" paged on google and then link still worked.

For both songs I'll post short versions of them because without a rapper or a singer, they get repetitive pretty fast.
But they are great to karaoke over. I know I had my fun with them even if I am a horrible singer.

Re: Toughts on the Fantom S

10 Nov 2004, 04:33
do you plan on uploading the slow motion remake?
i'd sure like to hear how the fantom sounds doing hip-hop

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