INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows - Integra 7

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

7 Sep 2013, 15:10

I did, as i said it doesnt work with other midi applications. Must be aometing in the integra itself, but what?

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

7 Sep 2013, 15:26

You have to discard every possibility by testing a few things, try first to connect the integra to another computer with different MIDI interface if possible. If it still doesn't work it *might* mean your Integra7 is defective or at least is malfunctioning. I don't know if a bad configuration on the i7 could cause the device to get unresponsive, but that's a possibility too. Or a bad OS firmware. You could try to update to 1.20 or overwrite the OS if it's even already updated.

In any case, you should have created a new thread on this board as this issue is not related at all to the editor. IF ANY BOARD ADMIN READS THIS, please fork or move the posts.

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

8 Sep 2013, 04:24

Please read my posts before answering. I did check with 2 computers, different midi interfaces,. I do have system 1.2. In my opinion it is relatex to the editor. The integra works fine for itself.only not in combination with the editor and im truing to find out why. Maybe its in the i7 itself, maybe not..

So,again, anyone an idea?

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

8 Sep 2013, 07:02

I'm confussed, you said other MIDI applications didn't work either

Spo Elman wrote:
I did, as i said it doesnt work with other midi applications.

Well, you might mean that when you use the editor the i7 gets unresponsive even for other applications? If it's that you didn't explain it very well.

Spo Elman wrote:
Must be aometing in the integra itself, but what?

And you said here that it must be the integra7 device. How can you say it is editor-related then?

Confussing!

I dunno if it's still applicable on modern computers, but back in the day some MIDI interfaces' drivers weren't multi-clientable, meaning only 1 application could access them at any time.

I have a somewhat similar issue with the editor, after loading an .i7s file the integra7 becomes unresponsive, i fix it by clicking on the "Preview" thingy, then turn the preview off, all back to normal then. Don't think it is your case tho...

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

10 Oct 2013, 19:18

Fortunately, my escalation of this issue by filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and conversations with Roger Halvorson of Roland US has resulted in Roland Japan actually admitting for the first time that they are going to be working on and releasing an INTEGRA-7 Editor/Librarian for Windows.

Prior to this, only Roland US was stating this, and apparently no one at Roland Japan ever "officially" stated this. It was just a request from Roland US. After all, as I put it, how can a company like Roland own and sell recording software ONLY for the PC, but not offer a compatible Editor/Librarian?

There actually might be some hope... finally.

Here's what I received today from Roger Halvorson of Roland US:

Hello Mr. Baldwin,

We have just posted the following official response to your complaint on the Better Business Bureau website:

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The Integra-7 can be fully operated without the use of a computer and was initially released in 2012 with an iOS-based editor (for use with an iPad). Since that time, Roland has released a 2nd editor that is compatible with Macintosh-based PCs as well as a Librarian application that is also compatible with Macintosh computers. At this point, there is not a Windows PC editor available for the Integra-7, but we have just recently received confirmation from the engineering teams in Japan that they are working on this application (we just received word this week). They do not have a timeframe for when this will be available, but we will work directly with Mr. Baldwin on this if he would like to continue waiting for this application.
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As you can see, we have finally received word from Roland Japan that they will be working on a PC editor for the Integra-7. They do not have a time frame for us yet, so please let us know if this is acceptable for you. If not, we can process a return and refund your purchase if you like.

Cordially,

Roger Halvorson
Roland Corp. U.S.

Let's hope this comes sooner, rather than later... keeping my fingers (plus toes and eyes) crossed!

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

12 Oct 2013, 03:31

I've found a bug! (looks like it)

When you try to load the "ExPCM: HQ GM2+HQ PCM" expansion, the Integra-7 loads it but the editor hangs in the waiting window forever. (I have no problems loading any of the other regular expansions)

I'm using the editor in Windows 7 64bit, with my integra7 connected through standard MIDI (not USB).

The problem doesn't happen only during startup expansion load, it also happens if you try to change to such virtual slot expansion using the menu "Tool"->"MIDI & Virtual Slot Setting"

Is it a problem with my setup or has everyone the same problem?

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

12 Oct 2013, 04:20

Grunwaldt wrote:
I've found a bug! (looks like it)

When you try to load the "ExPCM: HQ GM2+HQ PCM" expansion, the Integra-7 loads it but the editor hangs in the waiting window forever. (I have no problems loading any of the other regular expansions)

I'm using the editor in Windows 7 64bit, with my integra7 connected through standard MIDI (not USB).

The problem doesn't happen only during startup expansion load, it also happens if you try to change to such virtual slot expansion using the menu "Tool"->"MIDI & Virtual Slot Setting"

Is it a problem with my setup or has everyone the same problem?

As I don't use that Exp I did not notice but I'll try on mine and will let you know

Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

12 Oct 2013, 07:11

In a way it's ok that the editor doesn't work with that expansion because the sounds of the HQ section cannot be edited at all.

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

12 Oct 2013, 12:20

Grunwaldt wrote:
I've found a bug! (looks like it)

When you try to load the "ExPCM: HQ GM2+HQ PCM" expansion, the Integra-7 loads it but the editor hangs in the waiting window forever. (I have no problems loading any of the other regular expansions)

I'm using the editor in Windows 7 64bit, with my integra7 connected through standard MIDI (not USB).

The problem doesn't happen only during startup expansion load, it also happens if you try to change to such virtual slot expansion using the menu "Tool"->"MIDI & Virtual Slot Setting"

Is it a problem with my setup or has everyone the same problem?

Just tried to use the editor to load the ExPCM: HQ GM2+HQ PCM and it happened exactly like you described, Grunwaldt.
It loads the Expansion but then the Editor hangs showing the Message box: Now Loading Virtual Slot Data. Please wait...
In this case, forever ! ;-)

Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

19 Oct 2013, 08:33

How is the progress coming along for this editor on OSX ?
Really am a tad over editing the PCM voices via the front panel.

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

21 Oct 2013, 06:44

I have an problem with the editor (Probably me not understanding:)
I had my I7 for almost 2 weeks now and I have not used the editor much only started it to check that it worked.IE connected Ok!

The problem:
If I have made (via front panel) or imported user made patches and then open the editor and go to supernatural Synth/User and look on the Part view or part view all, my patches is labeled init????
If I go to look at the synth tone it,s label correctly?

The same with imported Supernatural Acoustic???
IE all user patches? how do I make em show up on the presets tabs??

Thankful for any help as I like to start to use it! but it,s hard to make studio sets with all the user patches called init:)

Thanks
Martin

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

21 Oct 2013, 14:16

Tino64 wrote:
I have an problem with the editor (Probably me not understanding:)
I had my I7 for almost 2 weeks now and I have not used the editor much only started it to check that it worked.IE connected Ok!

The problem:
If I have made (via front panel) or imported user made patches and then open the editor and go to supernatural Synth/User and look on the Part view or part view all, my patches is labeled init????
If I go to look at the synth tone it,s label correctly?

The same with imported Supernatural Acoustic???
IE all user patches? how do I make em show up on the presets tabs??

Thankful for any help as I like to start to use it! but it,s hard to make studio sets with all the user patches called init:)

Thanks
Martin

Hi Martin,

The editor is not thought to be used like that, it doesn't receive any user tone or studio set in that way.

I will try to explain:

When the software starts or you select receive all, all it does is request the current studio set and its current tones along with their settings, like a "snapshot" of the current state of the device.

The editor also won't write to the Integra7 user slots, if you want to do that you have to do it manually from the front panel.

When you want to save your current studio set to reuse later, you have to save it as a ".i7s" file, then later, when you wish to restore the settings load that file.

Sorry if I'm being a bit confussing, but that's mostly what happens with the editor itself.

Regards,

Sergi

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

21 Oct 2013, 15:00

Grunwaldt wrote:
Hi Martin,

The editor is not thought to be used like that, it doesn't receive any user tone or studio set in that way.

I will try to explain:

When the software starts or you select receive all, all it does is request the current studio set and its current tones along with their settings, like a "snapshot" of the current state of the device.

The editor also won't write to the Integra7 user slots, if you want to do that you have to do it manually from the front panel.

When you want to save your current studio set to reuse later, you have to save it as a ".i7s" file, then later, when you wish to restore the settings load that file.

Sorry if I'm being a bit confussing, but that's mostly what happens with the editor itself.

Regards,

Sergi

Oh I thought it imported the User patches, so I could be in Part view all, user, and would see my presets...
It,s a great editor (Thanks K_Take) but I guess it is limits to everything ?:) still it would be cool if it did that! only read not not write user patches!

Thanks
Martin

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

26 Oct 2013, 05:46

INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows ver 1.16
http://synth-voice.sakura.ne.jp/Integra-7_Sound_Editor_english.html

Enhancements : Windows 8.1 (.NET Framework 4.5.1) Supported.
Bug fixed : Super Natural Drumkit Tune Parameter bug fixed.

INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for OSX is under development. (70%)
Please use Roland's Official Editor or use Virtual PC. (VMware Fusion + Windows etc...)

Re: INTEGRA-7 Sound Editor for Windows

27 Oct 2013, 20:47

Thanks K_Take!

Seriously man, you need to put a PayPal donation button in your site!

I have a question, I've just updated to 1.16, and my doubt is: Is there any advantadge of installing and using the .NET 4.5.1 version over the 4.5 ?