Fantom XR - Control expression with CC04? - Fantom-S and Fantom-X

Fantom XR - Control expression with CC04?

23 Feb 2012, 13:03

I thought I had this figured out but it's not coming along as I expected... New Roland user here, recently picked up a secondhand XR and am trying to get things programmed...

My master controller is a Yamaha S90, which supports a second foot controller/expression pedal input which sends CC messages on CC04. What I'd like to do is program some patches on the XR to ignore normal expression messages (CC07) and instead, allow volume/expression/output level to be controlled with CC04.

I found where to disable expression messages in the patch control switch section and thought I'd found the means to assign CC04 to output level in matrix control by assigning CC04 Foot Type to OUTPUT LEVEL for all 4 tones but after setting up matrix control, CC04 seems to be controlling additional volume to the patch's general output level, i.e. with the controller at zero the patch is output at 127 and incrementing the controller just adds volume... I'm not able to pull the controller back to zero and have the XR produce zero volume.

I'm obviously not going about this the right way... can someone tell me the right way to have the XR ignore expression on CC07 and instead, have expression controlled by another CC?

Re: Fantom XR - Control expression with CC04?

23 Feb 2012, 17:44

Why don't you change your S90 to CC07 page 62 of the manual?
When using other CC assigned by the Matrix the result is cumulative with other parameters in each Tone.
Try setting the TVA Level (the first parameter on the editor) to 0 in all used Voices. In the Matrix set Destination 1 to Level and all the used Tones to On and the sens to max . This should now work with your pedal.

Now you just need to adjust the mix. If the TVA Level parameter was different in some Tones then you need to separate them by turning them off in the Matrix Destination 1 and set up another destination with just this Tone switched to On and a different sens value.

Note if your pedal is disconnected the S90 may reset the CC04 to 0 and you'll get no sound from the Fantom.

All the best
Royce

Re: Fantom XR - Control expression with CC04?

23 Feb 2012, 22:08

Outstanding! Thanks much for the help, Royce... worked like a charm.

Not sure what you were asking about changing my S90 to CC07, though. Page 62 of the S90 manual touches on assigning controllers to S90 patch parameters via the CTL SET, but that wouldn't really help me in this scenario unless I wanted to change my S90 patches to have expression controlled with CC04 and leave CC07 controlling the Fantom. But since the S90 is my main board and is already heavily programmed with splits and layers for both foot controllers, it's going to work out better for me to learn how to just add the XR to my setup one patch at a time.

Thanks again!