new and confused a bit

yes you can do what you wish to do

the compact flash card can store settings, songs, patches, and samples..
once formatted you can use the librarian software to replace the user patches with patches from the (great) collection on the sinevibes site.

Ok, how? From what I saw it can only be an 'svd' file? Sorry for the ignorance, but I will learn.
Thanks for your help.
M

You can either upload an entire svd file which is an entire bank one file, or using the librarian you can trial out patches and save where you like.

At the start of each patch you have PRST (Preset - built in, USER - This is the onboard memory, CARD - Patches on your pc card)

What i personally do is upload all the svds into seperate directories on my pc card and then copy them into my default card directory on the keyboard when i want to use that certain bank. This gives you access to all the banks without having to go back to the pc.

Once you get an idea of what you're using most, stick it in the USER banks.

Does that make any sense?

Here's a forum post of when i first discovered i could do it:
http://forums.rolandclan.com/?action=show_thread&thread=37048&fid=30&page=1

Nice Skijumptoes, I like how that works and must have missed when you posted. It's like having an infinite amount of patch banks, in just a few steps.

The only thing with using librarian is that it doesn't connect to the CF CARD storage. So basically, there is no direct way to storing individual patches from an outside source other than to use the USER area, or temporarily loading/saving patch.

that's the issue. Patches are in JGL format, not svd.
i found a breakdown of how to copy svd files, but None of them are in that format. Or is there an area I missed? Which is possible. Is there a way to create an svd file from librarian? And as db said, it doesn't write to the pc card directly. Is there another program I should be using overall?

Thanks again for all your help. I am really looking forward to getting more into this. OR its off to yamaha mo land. Nice board, but I really want to try to stick with what I have and find its full potential. Just have to be patient with the learning curve.
M

Have you got a link to the files you are interested in? I have only played with svd files as it's quicker. I'm sure the librarian will do what you want.

Have you got a pc card installed?

Let's not make it more confusing than it needs to be.

.JGL files are Juno-G Librarian files. What you need to do is load them with the Librarian and use that to 1) copy them to USER bank or 2) Preview patches and use the Juno to save them to either USER bank or CARD bank.

Skijumptoes offers good advice and method to manage multiple USER banks.

Hope that helps clear things up.

I think I got it.
So- either way it has to be written to the Juno. Either as a result or intermediary.passage to the card.
Correct?

Yes, albeit if you preview the patches it's only temporary(so don't switch patches or bump the dial knob if you still need to save your changes).

I'd suggest first thing is to back up your USER bank using the librarian. Then you'll have the stock patches ready to restore if you make too much of a mess.

Enjoy.

Yeah, tried it and forgot to do that....
but the new patches sound great.
Had to save them to the user bank. How do you get it to the card?
Once I figure that out, I will try to save them like SJT suggested..
Thanks again gang, really, really appreciate the help.

M

You probably sorted this already, but when you save the patch choose CARD. It's as easy as that. Keep in mind, the card only stores 256 patches and 32 rhythm kits too.

It's a bit backwards managing patches this way, but it's useable once you get the idea of moving things around.