I DID IT!!!!! This is SOO awesome!!

Haven't worked with RPS yet but here's my answer to 2:

Option 1:
- You can use rythm edit to create rythm using grid editor. Then save to one of the 256 user rythm patterns
- In song record the rythm (use sync arp/pattern) through pads (or RPS).

Option 2:
- Record a phrase using regular recording. Then choose edit and choose copy and select destination pattern.

What I haven't figured out if the 100 patterns can be created directly independenlty from the song (like the rythm edit).
It seems you always start out with 0 patterns and you have to fill them after recording in the current song.

TomC... congrats on getting the New X7.

First of all I would like to point out the main differences between KORG and Roland Patterns in sequencing. Since you have experience with KORG sequencer, you might expect somethings that Roland doesn't have and be suprised by what KORD doesn't offer.

1. KORG Patterns are not multitimberal. i.e., 1 track per pattern. Roland patterns are complete sequences, having 16 parts.

2. KORG Sequencers let you play upto 64 patterns at a time. Roland Sequencers let you play 8 patterns at a time.

3. KORG Patterns are for per SNG file, each SNG file can have upto 200 sequences, this lets you share patterns among different songs without copying among songs. Roland Patterns are for each SVQ file, which gives 1 song per file.

Now replying to your 1st question, you can record directly into a pattern. Create a pattern for each of the song sections, i.e., vrs, chrs, bridge etc.... note the pattern numbers of each section.

After you have recorded the sections as patterns, you can jump to the Linear sequencer. Use step recording to enter Pattern Call events to lay down your song.


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Remember that there are only 3 MFX + 1 Reverb + 1 Chorus in Fantom-S/X and you have to share them across 16 parts (patches).

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Ok. I was able to create a rythm pattern using the grid. I was able to save it into one of the user slots. I cant figure out how to get it to play in the sequencer. I have the basic track ready, but when I try to use the pattern, nothing happens. (I hit Record, Play, and then on the appropriate beat, I hit the corresponding pad for the pattern. The pad flashes but nothing happens. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.)

Shakil--
"Now replying to your 1st question, you can record directly into a pattern. Create a pattern for each of the song sections, i.e., vrs, chrs, bridge etc.... note the pattern numbers of each section."

If I record directly into a pattern, ie. I put the first verse into pattern 1, how do I control the different parts?? Ie. How do I control the volume, pan, effects, etc. of the different instruments. (Piano, Bass, and Drums.) Is everything still editable and if so, how?? To get this to work correctly, I would imagine that all of the applicable instruments would have to be under pattern 1 somehow for them all to play in sync when I press the 1st verse pad.

Looking forward to your answers and loving every minute of my new board.


Proud owner of a brand new Fantom X7!!

Anyone out there??

Proud owner of a brand new Fantom X7!!

Hey TomC...

"If I record directly into a pattern, ie. I put the first verse into pattern 1, how do I control the different parts?? Ie. How do I control the volume, pan, effects, etc. of the different instruments. (Piano, Bass, and Drums.)"

See Patterns and the linear sequences of each track are separate objects from the instruments settings (performance). The track settings are part of the Performance. Patterns do not have their own instruments settings. When you change the MIXER settings volume, pan, effects.... these settings are shared for all patterns.

You don't get separate instruments for different patterns, they are still same 16 instruments.

Now, nothing stops you from inserting MIDI controller messages to automate and have a specific setting for each Pattern, but for these you will need to insert MIDI messages in patterns to change volume settings, pan etc.. or even different patches.

"Is everything still editable and if so, how??"

Yes, just edit the MIXER.

" To get this to work correctly, I would imagine that all of the applicable instruments would have to be under pattern 1 somehow for them all to play in sync when I press the 1st verse pad. "

The instruments are under one performance, not under one pattern. Patterns are just MIDI sequences, they just play to whatever instruments selected in the MIXER.

Does this make sense?




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Remember that there are only 3 MFX + 1 Reverb + 1 Chorus in Fantom-S/X and you have to share them across 16 parts (patches) in a song.

live a musical life

Thank you Shakil!! I am at work but a light came on in my head. I think it was just a terminology problem. I was trying to relate to this sequencer and set up in the same way that I looked at the Korg O1W stuff.

This is waaaayyyyy better.!! Ok. Is all the information still available for edit?? ie. Can I still use track copy, etc. Quantize, blah blah.If i dont like something I did on a guitar riff, can I still delete measures, etc ?? How??

Proud owner of a brand new Fantom X7!!

Hey TomC ... take a deep breath....

As I said in my other post, note the differences between KORG and Roland Patterns.

You can edit a pattern same as you edit the linear sequence. All Editing functions are available.

It's GOOD!!

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Remember that there are only 3 MFX + 1 Reverb + 1 Chorus in Fantom-S/X and you have to share them across 16 parts (patches) in a song.

live a musical life

You can copy a pattern always to a track and back. So you can still change patterns (if you copy back to verse track).

Also to record a user rhytm I use the pad to start it at recording and I've set arp/rythm sync to on. There might be another way but 'ptn call ' doesn't list rythm patterns. Seems odd there's such a distinction but it seems they are treated as same objects.