Prospective buyer of fantom-g ... Please help ..

Welcome prasy4u

this forum has always influenced negatively highlighting other brands superiority & fantoms inferiority ....

What an awsome statement you did here prasy4u
I'm sorry as this is a little off-topic but it's exactly against this that Artemiy and us the moderators fight so many times. Your statement only, serves as reason for many of our posts. I'm almost tempted to make this thread sticky just to proove some points here at the Clan. Thank you for that.

Trying to answer and against what you say, I would simply say that I think the Fantom G is still the most powerfull workstation on the market. In so many way it's way ahead of the competition. It sure has it's flaws but on most cases you can workaround them. I also would like to point that in so many cases, what some users call flaws are just wishes for the OS.
The last update served mainly to give us extra sounds, phrases and patterns. We all
believe there is still a lot of margin for development and most of us are enjoying our Gs.

All in all the present status of the G is AWSOME!!!

It's very simple, imo ...

The worst part of the Fantom-G are the sounds ... There are far fewer than the competition and what's there is bland and characterless (in stark contrast to SRX-expanded Fan-X, which brims with great sounds that you really want to play ... ) ...
And a lot of Fan-G soundset is straight from stock Fan-X (you got it backwards, Roland) ...

Of course, the Fan-G has its good points ... but in the end, a workstation lives or dies by its ROM soundset imo ...

I'd have a Fan-G by now if Roland had spent more resources and effort on that all-important aspect ...

I suppose Fan-G is a decent step-up from Juno-G (though with Juno-G at least you get one SRX card expansion ... )

The best steup would be Fan-G + Fantom XR + SRX cards ... but that's getting a little unwieldy for live use and and rather expensive with a bunch of sonic overlap ...

Anybody know EXACTLY what sounds were added to v1.5 ... ???

I still hold out hope that an amazing update comes to Fan-G and makes me change my mind ... But Roland sure seems to be taking its sweet ole time making the Fan-G a viable workstation choice ...

hi prasy4u,
my simple answer for you: if you like the roland sound of your juno, you will be exited by the possibilities and the sounds of the fantom g.
i use the fantom since about 1 and a half year for producing and playing backing tracks for performances where i also play a steinway grand piano.
honestly i have to say that some of the tracks are produced in combination with native instruments vsts as the kontakt 3&4. and i also play a yamaha s70xs which i sometimes use for guitartracks.
but as a standalone workstation you will like the features of the fg.
in the last year a lot of improvements where made by os-updates and the wonderful fg connect-files.
if you are a musician that plays piano very well and if you looking for a workstation that's made for musicians (and not djs or guys who want mainly to use loops and arpeggios for their music) you won't regret to buy a fantom g. maybe you won't see the great possibilities that you have with the fg in the first few weeks that you need to get familiar with the structure. but once you got it - awesome!
that's my advice. i am a musician, not a member of the company as you may think when you read that....
greetings from germany,
m.

Respectfully, I would ask what makes the G the most powerful workstation out there? I am NOT trolling here. Most of my gear IS Roland.

Would the statement mean that the G has generally more FEATURES than other workstations? If that is the case then indeed an argument can be made that the G IS the powerful workstation.

As to particulars, it becomes a bit more tricky. I am not here to compare particulars (except for one that you will see later in this post) , as I believe there is no perfect workstation, and I do not believe that Vee-Cee-Oh is arguing or even implying that.

I DO however get a little paranoid when posting in the G section of Roland Clan. The reason is that there HAVE been so many trolls that sometimes honest and constructive criticism of the Fantom G is misconstrued as trolling.

We set criteria for ourselves when setting out to make a major investment like a workstation. And just as our musical creations are very personal things, so too are the criteria upon which we base our criteria. In that sense, I would assert that whatever instruments work best for each person is the workstation that person considers the most powerful.

My feeling on the G is this: I will make the leap when I see a bit more development on ARX. I REALLY want to see Roland incorporating more synthesis TYPES/ENGINES like the PC3. (N.B. Here is one PARTICULAR where the G cannot compete in the synthesizer component of the workstation as it stands now) I think ARX is a GREAT idea and could scare the bejeezus out of Yamaha and Korg. I DO think the G has a strong sound set, I love the feel of the keybed, but, I suppose what vexes me is the following:

Why only have two ARX slots for something that will be so very revolutionary. And, I am unclear as to why SRX slots were not considered. If the reason is that the G has a new synthesis engine, then would it not be fairly easy for Roland to create some "SRX ARX" boards to get a running start?

I think that the Roland Fantom G is a hell of an instrument, but, having been following its progress to reach its stunning potential, I have noticed a sort of waiting to see when Roland is going to deliver on the promise of what COULD be a REVOLUTIONARY workstation.

Of the big three, I WOULD agree that the G has the most potential for unreal power. Again, my own criteria is informing me of course. I played and played the Korg M3 and just didn't feel anything special about it, and the Motif? IMHO Yahama is playing it safe. The XS is a cool machine, but, it is a closed architecture instrument.

To the OP, I WOULD say get the G, especially since you want to upgrade your Juno-G since it is in essence a stripped down version of the Fantom X. Dollar wise, it makes sense to get a G even considering the price over a used X - and folks, again, this is no trolling, I am speaking as a happy owner of a Fantom X8.

So YES, make the jump. The Fantom G is light years ahead of a Juno-G.

Ahimsa,
Vlad

PS: GREAT to see the Clan is back. Kudos Artemiy for finding us a home!!

Thanx for the positive replies people ....

Finally i have ordered my fantom-g6 yesterday ...
I need to wait 3-4 days for the delivery ..


Till then this is probably the best place to spend some time to know more about the constructive criticism the G faces ....

Love this clan a lot

cheers ...

and I do not believe that Vee-Cee-Oh is arguing or even implying that.

You bet I wasn't

Prasy4you,
I think you made a great move! I hope to do it soon (provided I have the necessary funds )