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V synth GT and Fantom G

V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 00:51
I am thinking of selling my Roland G70 keyboard and buy a V synth instead. I already have a Fantom G6. Would it be a good idea to combine this with a V synth, or are the similarities between the two instruments so big that it would be a waste of money?

Whats the price of the V synth, is it more expensive than the Fantom G?

I hope to get about 3000 USD for the G70, as it is only 3 months old.

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 01:24
There is absolutely nothing common in the Fantom-G and V-Synth. V-Synth has a totally different sound engine which combines a lot technologies on the modeling side (VA, COSM) and quite deep modulation abilities (tons of envelopes, LFOs, step modulator), but it's the VariPhrase technology that is simply amazing. It lets you dive into the spectral and time characteristics of a sample independently, making sounds no other gear or software can do. Please read more about VariPhrase here: http://www.rolandclan.info/media/documents/en/v-synth/Welcome_to_Elastic_Audio.pdf

And listen to the V-Synth in action:
http://www.sinevibes.com/media/publications/v-synth-tb/V-Synth%20TB3%20demo.mp3
http://www.sinevibes.com/media/soundware/v-motions/V-Motions.mp3

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 05:33
so its essentially a sound maker...a tool for creating your own sounds?
But with lots of presets as well; i presume?

That sounds exactly what I need, but now I am stuck with that G70, which I dont use at all now after I purchased the Fantom. If I could trade the G70 for a V synth GT I would gladly do that...the G70 was very expensive, it cost almost twice the price of the Fantom, and I assume it is more expensive than the V synth too...the problem is that I am living on a tourist island, and there are not many people who would be interested in buying an expensive instrument like that here ...

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 06:09
Well, G70 is just a big arranger workstation and there is nothing much you can do with it in terms of creating new sounds. It is not meant to be used like a synth, only as a performance/composition instrument.

V-Synth is all about new sounds that were not possible before, and still are not possible with other gear or software. Yes, there are lots of very cool presets, and you can download around 300 free patches in addition.

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 06:45
But its about 3-4 years since it was launched right?
And it is still the best synth in your opinion ....havent Yamaha and Korg come up with something better in the meantime?

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 08:22
The V-Synth GT, as with the rest of V-Synth series, is in a class of its own. There is no keyboard in the market that can manipulate audio in realtime like the V-Synth. Now the V-Synth GT offers double the CPU power of its earlier siblings (V-Synth and V-Synth XT), plus a new synthesis type (AP Synthesis, which reproduces acoustic instuments using physical modeling) AND modern storage options.

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

2 Sep 2009, 08:23
Each manufacturer has it's own technologies, and most unique ones are patented. In case of Roland, VariPhrase is patented and no other manufacturer can do anything like this.

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

19 Sep 2009, 21:29
If I buy a V-synth and connects it to the Fantom via midi, will I then be able to use the sequencer in the Fantom to record sounds from the V-synth ... and keeping the sounds exactly as they are in the V-synth, so they sound the same when I play them on the Fantom?

Or must I buy an external sequencer for the V-synth?

When I play the sounds from the G70 on the Fantom, they sound very different, and only half of the presets in the G70 are available to play in the Fantom.

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

21 Sep 2009, 04:23
Of course you can connect the V-Synth GT to the Fantom-G and use the internal sequencer of the latest. As a matter of fact, this is part of my setup where the V-Synth GT has been setup to act like a "super"-expander for the FG. The FG controls the V-Synth with MIDI, and the sound is returned back to the FG using the S/PDIF link (and thus can be mastered by the FG along with its internal synth engine audio stream).

With regards to the V-Synth GT itslef, do not forget the Vocal Designer. It's an enhanced vocoder that allows you to use the V-Synth's sound generator as a waveform for your voice to carrier. Quite amazing results. Sample that, put the samples on any of the FG's audio tracks and voila !

Adding a V-Synth to your Fantom is the best thing you can do :)

Re: V synth GT and Fantom G

25 Sep 2009, 11:28
'Adding a V-Synth to your Fantom is the best thing you can do :)'

+1 with knobs on ;)

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