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Swapping Projects

Swapping Projects

24 Jul 2009, 02:05
I am really struggling with not knowing how to get songs from one project to another. Here is my problem....
I perform live as a solo act. On my thumb drive, I have 3 projects (Labeled Project 1, Project 2, and Project 3).
These projects contain 50 songs each, with quite a bit of background vocals, so the loading time is fairly long esp in a live dance music situation.
Would it be possible for me to create smaller projects (Say 10 songs or less), by taking songs out of my original projects. Like Project Rock, Project Ballad,etc?

This would free up my loading time between songs, and give me a better way of file organization.

If not, may I make a suggestion that Roland does something different? Not to make comparisons, but I own a Motif xs and have files that contain 25 or 30 songs. When I want to load a song that is not within that file, I can load a SINGLE SONG from my thumb in just seconds.

Is there anyone else out there that has the same need? I know in my studio, it doesn't matter much.

Would it be possible to duplicate my thumb drive with my computer, and then just delete unwanted songs?

Sorry for being long and scattered.
firstlovedan

Re: Swapping Projects

24 Jul 2009, 02:55
firstlovedan: You're absolutely right. There should be a file system, in order for users to be able to load single elements from other projects into the current project. These elements could be songs, phrases, patches, arp patterns, RPS sets, effects presets (if this gets implemented at all) and so on. Also, a Quick Play or Preview function for songs or phrases from other projects would be nice to implement on the Fantom-G as well.
Why not have a song chain function again? This was something very useful when I used it with my trusty XP-50, i.e. chaining songs together for continuous playback during a live situation.

Re: Swapping Projects

24 Jul 2009, 09:24
hi firstlovedan

why don't you record your complete songs as wave or mp3, put them all on iPod etc. and go over MIX IN into fan g?
perhaps this will be a simple solution for you, too?
i agree with you: 50 songs are not the world!!!

best,
dan

Re: Swapping Projects

24 Jul 2009, 10:14
cyclops: "Why not have a song chain function again? This was something very useful when I used it with my trusty XP-50, i.e. chaining songs together for continuous playback during a live situation. "

Man that was old system, Fantom-G is new system it's different... Roland thinks people don't chain songs any more, neither they need to transfer songs among projects, or play the song without loading (like Fantom-X)... It's a new technology design to make your life harder as a musician, so you can learn anger management techniques... I wonder if Roland is publishing a DVD on anger management any time soon.... I think it should have come free with Fantom-G.

Firstlove: "Would it be possible to duplicate my thumb drive with my computer, and then just delete unwanted songs? "

Yes, the songs are saved under SNG folder and if you delete the files for a song (there are two files for each song), it should delete from the project.

You can make a copy of the project using the "Save As" option for project. It's very good tool to experiment.

Motif may have some nice file management options, but it's sequencer is not as complex as Fantom-G's, so the files structures are different. Motif's song file has all of the midi data, so you can easily copy it around, but Fantom-G's song is a whole different animal.... it contains only event list of phrases, both midi and audio... so you can't just copy a song, you have to make sure the phrases are copied as well, and that phrase 001 in project 1 won't overwrite phrase 001 of project 2, when you copy song from project 1 to project 2.... so it's more complicated.

If you have kept same samples and sounds in your multiple projects, then I think you can just copy the SNG files and the related phrases from PHS folder from one folder to another on a computer, and see how it loads. But, it sounds like you are using different samples for different projects, and copying one to another will not be simple. You could think about creating one project for each song.

Also, for your particular situation, converting to wav or mp3 and mixing it from external player may be a good solution. If you get something like SP-555, you can store as much as 2GB of tracks and play upto 6 stereo at once. You could group resample and while playing back you could mute certain tracks, and play them live on Fantom-G... etc.

The loading time is the reason I have been telling people that Fantom-G is not a replacement of a true hard disk based digital audio workstation.....
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