more mv 8800 questions
25 Feb 2009, 20:58does anybody here know if i can sample something into the mv and be able to spread that sample over all 16 pads and each pad play in different octives like the mpc does?
MV-8000/8800
more mv 8800 questions
Re: more mv 8800 questions
26 Feb 2009, 04:50Oh yes!
Don't be fooled by the fact that it looks like a drum machine. The MV-8800 has a Roland S770 Sampler engine inside.
It is described very well in the Quick Start guide that comes with the MV, and also in the tutorial documents that are available from the Roland website.
Go here:
http://www.roland.co.uk/prod_room_catdet.asp?id=MV8800
and navigate to "Appendices" and "Help Documents". They are in there somewhere.
Don't be fooled by the fact that it looks like a drum machine. The MV-8800 has a Roland S770 Sampler engine inside.
It is described very well in the Quick Start guide that comes with the MV, and also in the tutorial documents that are available from the Roland website.
Go here:
http://www.roland.co.uk/prod_room_catdet.asp?id=MV8800
and navigate to "Appendices" and "Help Documents". They are in there somewhere.
Nik
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Re: more mv 8800 questions
13 Mar 2009, 12:05There are 3 basic ways:
1. When you have a new sample use the "Make Keyboard" function and spread it as you like.
2. Under instruments > Patch Edit > Split
You can grab any sample in a patch and spread as wide or narrow as you choose.
3. Copy any sample to the clipboard and copy to several pads and give them their own tuning and tweaks.
1. When you have a new sample use the "Make Keyboard" function and spread it as you like.
2. Under instruments > Patch Edit > Split
You can grab any sample in a patch and spread as wide or narrow as you choose.
3. Copy any sample to the clipboard and copy to several pads and give them their own tuning and tweaks.
yes its very simple
21 May 2009, 15:39First you must assign the sample to a pad. Second, hit that pad and then quick edit. Once in the quick edit screen press F2 (SMT). Scroll over to where it says Pitch KF and select normal. You can now spread the sample out over all six pad banks. However you may want to change the original key of the sample. You can do this very quickly from the SMT screen. simply press sample edit then select sample Prm and change the original key.....
NOTE: you probably want to change the original key of the sample before you spread it across the pads
NOTE: you probably want to change the original key of the sample before you spread it across the pads
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S-770? i doubt that.
24 May 2009, 06:34You mean that a 2007 top-of-the-line machine has the sampling engine of a 1992 one? I'd say either you misread the manual, or Roland is in severe dire straits.
What?.... Wwhat?
24 May 2009, 14:27Ya that sounds just a little bit off... I just saw that.
The MV has a superior sampling engine of its own.
If you don't know the answer please don't give one.
The MV has a superior sampling engine of its own.
If you don't know the answer please don't give one.
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Re: more mv 8800 questions
29 May 2009, 08:34He is correct. The the MV sample engine is indeed based the proven S-series. They've made some serious tweak to it but at it's core it the S-series engine. Once a sample engine has been stabilized there no need to rebuild it even if the the hardware and OS that control it are changed. The sample only has to be rebuilt if a move to a higher bit depth was made. Even then a complete rebuild isn't needed.
With all of that that said- the MV's hardware , OS and user interface surrounding the sample engine (which is just code) is far beyond that of the S-770/760.
With all of that that said- the MV's hardware , OS and user interface surrounding the sample engine (which is just code) is far beyond that of the S-770/760.
Incorrect not the s series sampler engine.
30 May 2009, 00:08If you have a question go to the source.
I emailed Roland support about this issue/question.
The official response is..... It borrowed a little bit from the old S series samplers.
Therefore it is not the same.
Borrowing from old technology and using old technology are two separate things. If there is a proven formula or principal that works borrow from it!
This is true in more than just technology, but in life in general.
I emailed Roland support about this issue/question.
The official response is..... It borrowed a little bit from the old S series samplers.
Therefore it is not the same.
Borrowing from old technology and using old technology are two separate things. If there is a proven formula or principal that works borrow from it!
This is true in more than just technology, but in life in general.
Know1
Re: more mv 8800 questions
31 May 2009, 03:32Like I said, the core engine is based on the S-7x series.It was also reused in the XV series . Perhaps, you should ask them what they borrowed and what they did with it after they "borrowed" it. My guess is that they actually used it.
Please remember that the current MV was designed back in 2002 (at least) before it's release in.
I pretty sure in my response but to each his own.
Please remember that the current MV was designed back in 2002 (at least) before it's release in.
I pretty sure in my response but to each his own.
My exact question to them.
31 May 2009, 11:59Question: Does the MV 8800 have the same sample engine as the S 770.
Answer: It borrowed a little bit from the old S series samplers.
I hope that this helps answer your request. If you need more assistance in this matter, please either re-submit your support request or contact our Product Support Department at the appropriate number.
Ya the MV 8000 was probably designed around 2002. Probably before that. It was released in 2003. However that's not the current MV.
The MV 8800 was released in January of 2007.
Again there is a difference between borrowing from something and actually using it.
PEACE
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Answer: It borrowed a little bit from the old S series samplers.
I hope that this helps answer your request. If you need more assistance in this matter, please either re-submit your support request or contact our Product Support Department at the appropriate number.
Ya the MV 8000 was probably designed around 2002. Probably before that. It was released in 2003. However that's not the current MV.
The MV 8800 was released in January of 2007.
Again there is a difference between borrowing from something and actually using it.
PEACE
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Re: more mv 8800 questions
31 May 2009, 12:51The primary reason for the MV-8800's release was to make it ROHS compliant and of course extend the product line's life cycle. The MV-8800 shares the exact same same hardware platform. The MV-8800 1.0 OS is a minor upgrade from v3.54 and except for the color screen , modded main PCB, and 2.5 drive ..the 8000 and 8800 share the same hardware.
I have both machines and have been using the MV since v2.0. so I'm in a pretty good position to know the build differences in the two units. The 8800 is not a grand departure from the 8800 the way you might think.
BTW- that response sounded like a "yes" to me. Also these are the same folks that told users that the 8000 was still in production right up until the 8800 was launcehed at NAMM.
I have both machines and have been using the MV since v2.0. so I'm in a pretty good position to know the build differences in the two units. The 8800 is not a grand departure from the 8800 the way you might think.
BTW- that response sounded like a "yes" to me. Also these are the same folks that told users that the 8000 was still in production right up until the 8800 was launcehed at NAMM.
8000/8800
31 May 2009, 13:07I realize there's not much difference between the 8000 and the 8800. I wasn't trying to imply that there was. I own a 8800, I bought it a month after it came out. I've never used a 8000 but don't think I'd have a problem finding my way around.
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