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Sliders in Live Mode

Sliders in Live Mode

22 Jul 2008, 01:26
I have three sounds set up in a Live preset and the sliders control their volume. How can I change the sliders to control other parameters? I've tried the manual but couldn't find it.

Ideally I would like the first three sliders to continue controlling the part volume for each of the sounds and then have the other ones for me to control other effects for the overall sound.

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

23 Jul 2008, 13:24
I have the same Problem.
I read the Manual i think that it should work but actually I can not assign the Sliders to Modulation controllers

Maybe my english is not good enough for the manual?!
I would be glad if someone can light up my darknes

;-)

Tibor

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

23 Jul 2008, 16:15
I know there's a "TEMP" mode on the sliders that can be set globally. I am not sure what flexibility it gives you, but it is supposed to govern whether what they control is a global setting or a patch/live mode setting.
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

23 Jul 2008, 19:14
How do you access that mode? Is it in System settings?

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

24 Jul 2008, 06:22
In the manual, check out "Slider 1-8 Assign" on page 76. The same thing is echoed on 289 where it tells you how to make the system setting change to TEMP. Like I said, I'm not sure if this solves your problem, but it looks like it should. I'm guessing the sliders are sending the CC for volume by default, but you should be able to make them do any of the things documented there. By the way, my page numbers are referring to the PDF document. I don't have the actual manual in front of me.
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

13 Jan 2009, 06:51
Sorry to fetch this old thread again, but better than starting a new one with the same topic ;)

1.)
I wanna assign the Faders to different parameters eg. cutoff, reverse delay send/return etc...
I know the menu screen where u can assign the sliders to various CC settings but if I set eg. "cutoff" I can't here any change in the sound (well, this prooves that this really sets just the CC mode)...
But where can I control other parameters like the mentioned FX send/return etc...
And where can I assign a cutoff so that it changes the sound... ;)

2.)
Is it possible to control the part level of several parts with just one slider wouthout loosing other faders? (if i set the RX channel for several parts to the same channel, I loose all controllers that are set to the assigned midi channel^^)
I already told the Roland Support but they sent me the solution with the RX channel....

greets
Luke
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Re: Sliders in Live Mode

13 Jan 2009, 11:30
Nobody? Please?


Edit: Does anybody know a solution? Or is ths question so dumb that nobody answers?... :D Well, excuse me but I'm just exploring the deep infinity of CC commands...
I didn't get it till now ;)

greets
Luke
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Re: Sliders in Live Mode

19 Jan 2009, 13:02
Hey Luke,

I had also trouble with the faders. I had troubles to save the faders controllers settings for external gear.
It might be a problem to asign and save it for internal sounds as well, however I didn't try this.

Maybe something for an update?

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

26 Jan 2009, 16:17
I tried to make it work with external gear. It is possible, but here is a workaround needed.
I didn't try this with internal gear but I will give that a try as well.

Please hang on..

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

27 Jan 2009, 06:21
Today I had a little success! I found out (it was just so easy, why haven't I checked that before?!) that you ARE able to control different FX parameters with the Knobs, at least the "Wet/Dry" value of some FX... (not of every FX...)
(although I'd like to invert the functionality so that I can blend the FX in by increasing the controller value!)...

The Fader thing is really weird, you can assign them to the various FX parameters but when u return to LiveSet screen you just control the volume again!?!....^^(whos idea was that?)

My wish would be point 1.) of my previous post to be solved and that the assignable parameters of the FX could be chosen more versatile! Those are really limited!...
It'd be interesting why it isn't possible to control all parameters of every FX...I mean this is just a software thing and what are rational reasons behind not doing that?...

well greets
Luke
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Re: Sliders in Live Mode

27 Jan 2009, 08:50
Switch Live sets with F5 (Live set list) and stay in the Live Mixer to have the programmed faders available.
It's a workaround I use for controlling external gear.

It might work as well for internal programmed faders

Make sure you set the faders to TEMP in the system menu.
This way you can store different settings for every Live set.

Re: Sliders in Live Mode

29 Jan 2009, 16:37
Letz say I take LiveSet: Dream Lead! (dunno the number right now)...

I got to PFX of Part1, set the controlsrc.1 to Slider 1 (CC=Modulation)...
Set the destination which is eg. Amp Level and the amount to +63!
(by the way, I don't use the correct markings now but u should now which parameters I mean ;))

if I slide the fader up'n'down I can hear a change in the sound, if I go back to LiveSet Main Screen the fader is now controlling Volume Part1 AND the PFX setting, which is nonsense! Also a change into the LiveSet Mixer doesn't help!

Any Ideas! I think I'm just to silly to check this machine... :D...need a little time with it, alone in one room....just me and the machine...!
This can't be impossible, if so, the G really neeeeds an update!

greets
Luke
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Re: Sliders in Live Mode

1 Feb 2009, 13:20
Well today I took the time to sit down alone with the machine...and I'll tell ya what happened...
If you want to assign the Sliders in LiveMode to other parameters than Part Volume you have to go to the system settings-->Knob/Slider--> Slider Assign Settings--> set value to fix!
After that, the Slider-Setting box in the LiveSet Mainscreen will display the CC-messages each Slider sends, and finally the assignments make sense!


Although I didn't find out how you can assign the sliders to control the volume of more than one part...!

I'll keep on working...greets
Luke
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