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Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:41
I agree... from now on..
for every mail you make here about no multisample
cut copy and paste it to supportroland.co.uk
and keep cut copy and pasting untill they say...
Okay Okay
We get it..
You want multisampling on the G

here it is...


I never said they would give in did I but its a start isn't it.....unless of course like I said people really don't care THAT much.

And I don t mean to be rude to Roland but if someone from the company does fleet in and out of these forums they should have the balls and the professionalism to answer as best they can peoples concerns.....

I can live without the Multisampling but I ve seen 3 to 4 threads on the issue now ,if what you say is true about Roland not listening,then why are you bothered to keep going over old ground.You're wasting your time aren't ya????

Its not a direct dig at Quinnx by the way,i just used his comment as a good example.
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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:44
(Quick! it may be deleted by Roland secret agent!)

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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:45
jimknopf...

I think including the best of the SRX sounds as well as getting rid of several redundancies will work well.
I have searched the sound list many times to see if the sounds I need are there. It seems they are.

I have SRX-03, SRX-07, SRX-09, and SRX-12 in my X.
It seems the important sounds from these cards are there for me. (just missing the mellotron flute which I have a work around for.)
It also seems they have included great patches from other SRX that I did not add that I will be glad to have...

That's my SRX take anyway...
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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:45
Dammm!!!!!....
He was faster then me.

:-D

You're wasting your time aren't ya????

12 Mar 2008, 11:46
thekeymaster :
Thats yet to be seen (will update ya early may) ;-)

VCee
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HA! you missed!! :DD

solution: (multiple MFX)
create patch using pfx/mfx then
connect digital out to digital in
route digital in through Input FX
route output to B
(in theory as i dont have a G)



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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:51
Me?
Of course not. I'm just [deleted by secret Roland agent]. Most of the time I'm also doing [deleted by secret Roland Agent].

Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:54
V-CeeOh , Quinnx

If you keep on with this I'll have to [deleted by secret Roland Agent]

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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 11:55
Dammm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 12:03
:-D

Quinnx
I don't see how that would work since the digital carries the final mix, not individual parts, isn't it? But maybe that can be done using the analog B outputs to the analog input. Wondering ....

Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 12:05
I wonder will there be people who buy the G needing multisampling but not realizing that it's been ommited. I know this would reflect badly on the buyer as he/she should obviously research what they are buying but the presence of multi-sampling would be seen as a given for many people, something they might not even think to check for whether its there or not, assuming that it must be.

Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 12:06
Edit:
In that case..
route all mfx pfx and all output channels to B
route the channel requiring the extra fx to A out and then to input and input MFX
and route input to output to B
Phew! :)

(Hope you visualizing all this) :-)



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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 12:41
I've had a response from Roland UK....


Dear Roland User,

Following your comments in regards to the Multisampling facility on the Fantom G and the remarks made on the Roland Clan web site forum you can go [deleted by secret Roland Agent]

Many Thanks

Roland UK



Err wtf??? whats happened there then...???
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Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 12:46
Err wtf??? whats happened there then...???


The secret Roland agent is everywheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere!!!!!!!

Re: Confirmation from Roland uk- No Multi-Sampling

12 Mar 2008, 14:04
Jimknopf:
So I have no choice: I need seamless switching live, and I'm glad how well live switching can be done on the G, but I also need flexible effect settings live.

This is where I would have expected at least one more FX not having to be a fixed global one. And believe me, I'm not just demanding, I would readily pay for it.
The reason Live Mode allows one to seamlessly switch between layers and splits is that the PFX processors are locked to their respective parts and only 8 parts are available at a time. The effects become dynamically allocated, and it's a very clever trick. The MFX processors are unable to be assigned to the internal parts specifically because they do not and cannot switch seamlessly. It makes perfect sense why they don't, as MFX processors are considered outputs, allowing multiple parts to be routed through them (in Studio Mode).

Since MFX processors can't be seamless, there's no point adding them to Live Mode, as your Live Sets can't be seamless either. You've effectively negated the whole point for using Live Mode.

So when the issue becomes "But I could do what I wanted in the X", the answer is "You can in the G too. Use Studio mode." Again, the only way you get to use Live Mode is if you abide by the rules that allow Live Mode to exist in the first place.

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